Cowboys’ free agency approach has been drastically altered by past blunders and it needs revisiting

[Genghis Khan]

And do what, go through another decade trying to find a QB in the draft? Fuck that.

That's the issue.

This shouldn't need to be said, but Dak isn't Clint Stoerner. We can quibble over whether he's top 7 or top 15 or whatever, but he's not complete garbage.

So the issue is that most QBs ARE complete garbage. There's like at best 20 good ones at any given time.

If you have even a top 15 - 20 QB, it's really hard to walk away and try to find a better one. The odds are waaaaay stacked against you, even if you have all the cap dollars in the world to spend (a top whatever QB is rarely available) and even if you have a top 10 or even first overall draft pick (the bust rate for even first rounders and first overall QBs is very high).

What good is cap space if your QB is Daniel Jones?

Washington is often brought up in this debate because it's a really good example of a team deciding not to overpay a QB they thought was good not great. And it worked out awful for them. They still don't have a replacement all these years later and they've dipped into free agency, the first round of the draft, and tried the trade market.

You can't just dial up 1-800-QB and find one was always a very apt quote from Parcells. It really is hard to find one that's any good.

I mean, very honestly I'd prefer a better QB but even more so I absolutely don't want to be Washington.

(Of course the other issue is that the "cap problems" the team is pretending to have is self imposed and they could in reality spend way more than they do and keep all of their good players, but I digress.)

 

[Genghis Khan]

What's the difference? You either have the QB that can win you a championship or you don't. I think you actively try and find that guy until you have him.

People can say Dak can win a SB all they want, the truth is his bets shot was last year. He fell apart and we spent the last half of the year waiting for him to get right, he really never did unless it was against trash teams.

If you can put a good team and coaching staff around Stafford, you can do it with Dak.

I'd rather try that than start over at rock bottom just to try and find an elite QB. We've been lucky in the history of the franchise, but it can certainly take literally decades to find one if you are unlucky. And the Clampetts will be the ones looking.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I don’t agree with this at all. I think we can win with Dak. He may need more pieces around him versus an elite QB but I believe we can win with him. People are so shorttermed memory they forget how good he has been.

They also forget just how bad a QB situation can get.

 

[AAron_Burr8]

I believe that if Dak really wanted him, Cooper would not have been traded.

Might have been that whole black kirk cousins thing ... lols

 

[AAron_Burr8]

If you can put a good team and coaching staff around Stafford, you can do it with Dak.

I'd rather try that than start over at rock bottom just to try and find an elite QB. We've been lucky in the history of the franchise, but it can certainly take literally decades to find one if you are unlucky. And the Clampetts will be the ones looking.

One of these two possessed elite tools and therefore was taken 1st overall

the other was a 4th rounder lols

NO they are not the same qb ...

 

[Sheik]

Might have been that whole black kirk cousins thing ... lols

Do you giggle after every post?

 

[AAron_Burr8]

That's the issue.

This shouldn't need to be said, but Dak isn't Clint Stoerner. We can quibble over whether he's top 7 or top 15 or whatever, but he's not complete garbage.

So the issue is that most QBs ARE complete garbage. There's like at best 20 good ones at any given time.

If you have even a top 15 - 20 QB, it's really hard to walk away and try to find a better one. The odds are waaaaay stacked against you, even if you have all the cap dollars in the world to spend (a top whatever QB is rarely available) and even if you have a top 10 or even first overall draft pick (the bust rate for even first rounders and first overall QBs is very high).

What good is cap space if your QB is Daniel Jones?

Washington is often brought up in this debate because it's a really good example of a team deciding not to overpay a QB they thought was good not great. And it worked out awful for them. They still don't have a replacement all these years later and they've dipped into free agency, the first round of the draft, and tried the trade market.

You can't just dial up 1-800-QB and find one was always a very apt quote from Parcells. It really is hard to find one that's any good.

I mean, very honestly I'd prefer a better QB but even more so I absolutely don't want to be Washington.

(Of course the other issue is that the "cap problems" the team is pretending to have is self imposed and they could in reality spend way more than they do and keep all of their good players, but I digress.)

Don't you clowns cry all the time about winning SBs ?

Do you want to win a SB or just be not horrible ?

You make the arguments for Dak like you just want to be not horrible which is pretty funny considering how much Jerry and coaches are bashed for maintaining mediocrity ?

Peak of hypocrisy

P.S. you are bad at math

 

[Sheik]

Don't you clowns cry all the time about winning SBs ?

Do you want to win a SB or just be not horrible ?

You make the arguments for Dak like you just want to be not horrible which is pretty funny considering how much Jerry and coaches are bashed for maintaining mediocrity ?

Peak of hypocrisy

P.S. you are bad at math

This is my take, but less hateful and dream stompy aimed at others who choose to believe in Dak.

 

[Cotton]

That's the issue.

This shouldn't need to be said, but Dak isn't Clint Stoerner. We can quibble over whether he's top 7 or top 15 or whatever, but he's not complete garbage.

So the issue is that most QBs ARE complete garbage. There's like at best 20 good ones at any given time.

If you have even a top 15 - 20 QB, it's really hard to walk away and try to find a better one. The odds are waaaaay stacked against you, even if you have all the cap dollars in the world to spend (a top whatever QB is rarely available) and even if you have a top 10 or even first overall draft pick (the bust rate for even first rounders and first overall QBs is very high).

What good is cap space if your QB is Daniel Jones?

Washington is often brought up in this debate because it's a really good example of a team deciding not to overpay a QB they thought was good not great. And it worked out awful for them. They still don't have a replacement all these years later and they've dipped into free agency, the first round of the draft, and tried the trade market.

You can't just dial up 1-800-QB and find one was always a very apt quote from Parcells. It really is hard to find one that's any good.

I mean, very honestly I'd prefer a better QB but even more so I absolutely don't want to be Washington.

(Of course the other issue is that the "cap problems" the team is pretending to have is self imposed and they could in reality spend way more than they do and keep all of their good players, but I digress.)

Post more, seriously.

 

[Cotton]

This is my take, but less hateful and dream stompy aimed at others who choose to believe in Dak.

Cool, good luck finding a QB in the next two drafts. This is a ludicrous conversation to even be having between fans that have been fans as long as us. Do you want Ryan, Clint, Rodney, Vinny, Anthony, and Quincy before you get lucky again? Fuck that.

 

[Sheik]

Cool, good luck finding a QB in the next two drafts. This is a ludicrous conversation to even be having between fans that have been fans as long as us. Do you want Ryan, Clint, Rodney, Vinny, Anthony, and Quincy before you get lucky again? Fuck that.

Not at all. I just don't care to be relevant at the expense of not trying to be great.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Test

 

[Sheik]

Test

Yessssss!

 

[jsmith6919]

Not at all. I just don't care to be relevant at the expense of not trying to be great.

Ok but there was fuckall for qbs in the draft when we had to sign Dak and you would end up paying just as much for a decent one or settle for a cheap clipboard holder like Dalton so what would you do?

 

[Cotton]

Not at all. I just don't care to be relevant at the expense of not trying to be great.

But, you have to be realistic about how to get there.

 

[AAron_Burr8]

Cool, good luck finding a QB in the next two drafts. This is a ludicrous conversation to even be having between fans that have been fans as long as us. Do you want Ryan, Clint, Rodney, Vinny, Anthony, and Quincy before you get lucky again? Fuck that.

Having Romo and Dak waste 2 decades winning a whopping 3 playoff games ... fuck that

 

[AAron_Burr8]

But, you have to be realistic about how to get there.

Oh really, like the 3 decades of the salary cap that show paying Dak this much guarantees you won't win a SB ?

Let me guess that data doesn't count right ?

Lols

 

[AAron_Burr8]

Ok but there was fuckall for qbs in the draft when we had to sign Dak and you would end up paying just as much for a decent one or settle for a cheap clipboard holder like Dalton so what would you do?

Ya that Herbert kid was terrible lols

 

[jsmith6919]

Having Romo and Dak waste 2 decades winning a whopping 3 playoff games ... fuck that

Maybe, and hear me out here.....it's not all on the qb.

 

[Sheik]

But, you have to be realistic about how to get there.

That's why I temper my Dak dissatisfaction as much as I can. I know the team is in an impossible situation where he's concerned and guys here want to remain hopeful, naturally.

I'm 50% less in your face about this than this Alan Blurp guy that's running around here lol'ing.