lostxn
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Oh, well now I'm offended. Where's the report button?You are a season ticket holder... We already know.
Oh, well now I'm offended. Where's the report button?You are a season ticket holder... We already know.
Yeah, I heard the speech where he turned a memorial type deal for the 5 fallen officers into a gun control lecture. I've talked to many Dallas officers about it and to a person they were infuriated by it and wished he hadn't come. Some of the families lived in the division I commanded here in Fort Worth at the time. Not happy either. So yes, that Obama. Again I tell you, I don't know Trump personally, but I bet in your lifetime, in private, you have made a crass or rude statement when you are among people you supposedly trust for it not to get out. Just saying. Personally, Since McCain won't retire and can't do his job, dying seems to be the only way he is leaving his position. And it's all because of spite and not other reason. The family deserves comfort, but they need to tell him to quit being a hateful POS. People would have far more sympathy.The fact that you think that Obama was more of a “divider” than the man who spent 8 years saying he was from Kenya is pretty telling.
After the Dallas shooting Obama came to speak with George W in hopes of helping unite the country. After C-Ville Trump defended Nazis and went golfing. Obama was a politician who had stances people disagreed with. Trump is a filthy piece of shit who doubles down when his staffers joke about McCain dying. Do you see the difference?
I keep reading about how "divisive" Obama was. He was "divisive" by his mere presence (race) and to a smaller extent, his globalist perspective.The core issue with these two presidents is how people learn about them.
Trump makes an ass of himself without any need for right wing spin, just candid comments during interviews, tweets and rallies.
Obama coverage was mostly positive from the left and deeply negative from the right, but it depended a lot more on spin, if you tune into Judge Jeannine her programming was built on the idea that whatever simple innocuous thing Obama did was an affront to the constitution, God and the troops.
With Trump you need no additional commentary, he digs his own grave, and then his loyal bootlickers fly out to be outraged over the outrage.
I don’t know why but this made me imagine white vans parked while using listening devices trying their best to pick up any racist signals.Liberals as a whole vary. For instance there are a lot of Al Franken truthers that think his accusers are all a bunch of right wing plants.There are definitely shameless partisans on the left, but you don’t need to take a snippet of what Trump says out of context.
Which by the way, anyone who listened to Trump’s whole interview could come away with the impression that he used a sheriff’s, non-question, statement about MS-13 as a jumping off point to talk about illegal immigrants as a whole, there’s a difference between taking a couple sentences of speech out of context, and insisting there’s additional context to an unabridged response that was blirted out without a single reference to MS-13.
Trump apologetics demands we assume he’s so stupid that he accidentally says things that sound incredibly bigoted, but every piece of dumb racist, or sexist bullshit he blurts out is just him, the president, being an innocent without control of his words. Meanwhile the radical fringe of people who rejoice at his every word, and get covered for by him, continue to feel like Trump “tells it like it is”.
And declaring things “imagined” and “pretend” doesn’t make it so. Was “bleeding from her wherever” imaginary? Was Charlottesville imaginary? Good news for Heather Heyer’s parents, maybe they can get a refund on that headstone.
I’m so fucking sick of this both siderism. Assuming both sides are even, and grasping at straws to draw equivalency is operates from the same useless confirmation bias as someone who thinks the opposing team is always wrong.
Yeah Obama was extremely divisive. And no it wasn't just because he was black.Um, no. I think he was divisive, and I thought the birther stuff was irrelevant and his skin color was a positive. I wish conservatives had a legit black candidate.
The way he handled some of the racial incidents was definitely less than uniting.
I think that's probably unfair. I mean, yes a significant portion of the right wing hated having a black man in the white house. There is zero question about that. As they say, you don't have to be a racist to be a republican but if you're a racist you are definitely a republican. That being said you hear too many conservatives parroting this line to think it's all about that.If people think Obama was divisive, it was probably way simpler than you put it....like his skin color and the birther shit.
You forgot about the tan suit.I think that's probably unfair. I mean, yes a significant portion of the right wing hated having a black man in the white house. There is zero question about that. As they say, you don't have to be a racist to be a republican but if you're a racist you are definitely a republican. That being said you hear too many conservatives parroting this line to think it's all about that.
This is a Fox news talking point. Literally everything Obama did form ordering dijon mustard to his wife pushing kids to eat better got politicized. No matter how innocuous or bipartisan, Fox News and the Reps fought it and cast it as malevolent. After a while it sinks in and these guys believe it implicitly. I've asked people to give me examples and out comes the beer summit incident. However, the guy apologized and made every attempt to mend fences. After that example, it all gets very vague. Meeting with celebrities, going to Hollywood awards show, shit like that. As if that shows anything. Who wouldn't go to the Oscars if invited? I've googled articles about why people think he's so divisive and they're all just partisan trash. I haven't read anything above "he didn't do what we wanted him to do" so he's divisive. It's not like there was anyone trying to compromise with Obama for 8 years.
Meanwhile, you ask why Trumpy is seen as divisive and people can go like 20 deep on examples without blinking an eye. That being said, at least the folks here have the intellectual honesty to admit that.
There is zero question about that. As they say, you don't have to be a racist to be a republican but if you're a racist you are definitely a republican.This part of your post makes me question your credibility as a fair minded person. It is a prejudicial statement at its peak.
You watch too much Fox News...You forgot about the tan suit.
Fox News actually was up in arms that he wore a tan suit.
That is a flat out fucking lie.I think that's probably unfair. I mean, yes a significant portion of the right wing hated having a black man in the white house. There is zero question about that. As they say, you don't have to be a racist to be a republican but if you're a racist you are definitely a republican. That being said you hear too many conservatives parroting this line to think it's all about that.
This is a Fox news talking point. Literally everything Obama did form ordering dijon mustard to his wife pushing kids to eat better got politicized. No matter how innocuous or bipartisan, Fox News and the Reps fought it and cast it as malevolent. After a while it sinks in and these guys believe it implicitly. I've asked people to give me examples and out comes the beer summit incident. However, the guy apologized and made every attempt to mend fences. After that example, it all gets very vague. Meeting with celebrities, going to Hollywood awards show, shit like that. As if that shows anything. Who wouldn't go to the Oscars if invited? I've googled articles about why people think he's so divisive and they're all just partisan trash. I haven't read anything above "he didn't do what we wanted him to do" so he's divisive. It's not like there was anyone trying to compromise with Obama for 8 years.
Meanwhile, you ask why Trumpy is seen as divisive and people can go like 20 deep on examples without blinking an eye. That being said, at least the folks here have the intellectual honesty to admit that.
Neither party is anything like their platforms from a century plus ago.Continuation from above.
If you will check history the founders of the Democratic Party under Andrew Jackson promoted slavery while the the Republicans under Lincoln were against it. Even in the Civil Rights act it was carried by the Republicans despite the resistance from the Democrats. You might want to rethink your view on who are racists.
Even old, supposed smart people bring up that bullshit argument.Neither party is anything like their platforms from a century plus ago.
True but how did the conservative Republican party and followers evolve to racists and when and how did the Democratic Party of race practioners and founder of KKK suddenly sprout wings. The racist label for Republicans was manufactured by the Democrats to get the black vote. They have used this ploy for a long time but now some of the black population is seeing through the BS. How anyone can just accept the lie that transcends actual history is beyond me.Neither party is anything like their platforms from a century plus ago.
The civil right laws were not a century ago.Neither party is anything like their platforms from a century plus ago.