Remember when all those people said they were DONE WITH THE NFL!!!
Pacheko has looked pretty damn good every time I’ve watched him. He carried twice to seal the game against Buffalo when everyone in the stadium knew he was getting the ball. I shudder to think if that’s the Cowboys Dak and Pollard in that position.Of course. DCs know they have to stop (or limit) Mahomes, not Isiah Pacheko.
Let me know if there's a better source than ESPN. They only provide per-game and per-season QBR. Formula's private, so can't provide a career postseason average.Can you add QBR?
Maybe maybe not. If Detroit follows the Green Bay approach they can win. Green Bay abandoned their game plan at the end of the game and allowed the Niners to use their system and that was a mistake.Forecast looks like it's going to be in the 60s and sunny for several days before and after next Sunday.
Translation, Detroit has no chance.
I would say there is an additional factoring that needs to be recognized to this list and that is the games that the teams by passed by getting a bye. That should add something additional to the total games played in the playoffs. Kansas City would have had more playoff victories more than likely but they jumped in after first round. It’s pretty amazing what Andy Reed has done as a Coach with KC but his overall accomplishments surpass every one even Lombardy. Just my opinion.Let me know if there's a better source than ESPN. They only provide per-game and per-season QBR. Formula's private, so can't provide a career postseason average.
MAHOMES PLAYOFF ESPN QBR
2018 (2 games) - 67.3
2019 (3) - 89.1
2020 (3) - 75.3
2021 (3) - 82.6
2022 (3) - 84.0
2023 (2) - 89.6
BRADY
2006 (3) - 83.0
2007 (3) - 72.6
2009 (1) - 9.1
2010 (1) - 16.2
2011 (3) - 80.8
2012 (2) - 70.5
2013 (1) - 69.4
2014 (3) - 83.3
2015 (2) - 70.7
2016 (3) - 75.8
2017 (3) - 85.9
2018 (3) - 66.9
2019 (1) - 40.8
2020 (4) - 74.2
RODGERS
2010 (4) - 85.2
2011 (1) - 65.4
2012 (2) - 76.6
2013 (1) - 66.9
2014 (2) - 67.8
2015 (2) - 74.6
2016 (3) - 83.2
2019 (2) - 63.1
2020 (2) - 75.2
BREES
2006 (2) - 68.7
2009 (3) - 87.9
2010 (1) - 70.5
2011 (2) - 84.5
2013 (2) - 50.4
2017 (2) - 81.9
2018 (2) - 57.6
2019 (1) - 49.3
2020 (2) - 37.5
PEYTON
2006 (4) - 71.9
2007 (1) - 90.3
2008 (1) - 55.7
2009 (3) - 90.4
2010 (1) - 70.0
2012 (1) - 56.1
2013 (3) - 79.0
Marino gets undersold these days.So glad you put Marino. I always thought he might be the best I ever saw, even though he didn't win it all. He was amazing.
He also gets oversold based on his early success, especially his 84 season. Looking back on it, I think folks realize now it was a bit of an aberration. Most defenses back then just weren’t built to stop a seriously loaded pass-first team where everyone went out in a pass pattern.Marino gets undersold these days.
Andy Reid certainly is an all-timer considering his sustained success with two franchises. Only him and Shula?I would say there is an additional factoring that needs to be recognized to this list and that is the games that the teams by passed by getting a bye. That should add something additional to the total games played in the playoffs. Kansas City would have had more playoff victories more than likely but they jumped in after first round. It’s pretty amazing what Andy Reed has done as a Coach with KC but his overall accomplishments surpass every one even Lombardy. Just my opinion.
Kind of biased, though. Bradshaw? Lamar over Rodgers and Brees? I guess any list like this is going to be biasedJust for the smell of it, I heard Jimmy's buddy Pat Jones rank his top ten of all time. He's an older guy like Jimmy so he's seen everyone with his own eyes:
1. Staubach
2. Montana
3. Brady
4. Manning
5. Elway
6. Unitas
7. Young
8. Mahomes
9. Aikman
10. Lamar Jackson
I'm guessing Jimmy's experience with Marino soured him a bit on him, though he did say he personally favored mobile guys over statue types. Said Roger probably had the best intangibles of anyone on the list. The Jackson one doesn't make sense but the rest is pretty strong.
Possibly lost in the DCC crash, but I remember doing a playoff comparison amongst the 80s and 90s QBs. Aikman, honed in on the five-year run, and late 80s Montana were in a tier by themselves. Distinguished from Elway, Marino, Favre, Kelly.Again... These numbers for these players are nice, but compiled under completely different circumstances. Just look at the completion percentages from the different eras. Remember when Troy Aikman was completing 60% of his passes and people were lauding him for his accuracy? I do. And he did that in a downfield passing attack. Today that number is common place. If a QB doesn't at least get that, he's shit on.
Yep, he was a defensive coach and he's enamored with Jackson's incredible athleticism because it causes such problems.Kind of biased, though. Bradshaw? Lamar over Rodgers and Brees? I guess any list like this is going to be biased
I think Troy could have been had he had a better GM to better develop his defense and get him supporting and also not played on the hard Texas Stadium and NFC East artificial surfaces.One knock against Aikman if you’re nit-picking amongst the greats, is the shorter span of his prime, for lack of better word. Elway, Montana, Favre, Marino were all productive well into 30s.
I don’t know how credible it is, but lots of Packers fans downgrade Rodgers post-Super Bowl as a playoff choker.I personally would never put Brees on a list like this. Rodgers, though... as weird and as big a d-bag as he is, I'd have to put him on there somewhere. In his prime he was unbelievable. I haven't seen many better than him when he was at his best.
Don’t open that can. Walking right by…I think Troy could have been had he had a better GM to better develop his defense and get him supporting and also not played on the hard Texas Stadium and NFC East artificial surfaces.