I notice they blame the State reopening on April 30th as part of the cause. But with 5-12 days to show symptoms doesn't that appear to be a pretty weak argument to blame something that happened 6 weeks ago? Can we not say the stay at home orders were excessive and not so impactful while at the same time saying protests of thousands of people packed shoulder to shoulder are likely to blame?There is hipocracy on both sides, trust me. 2-3 weeks ago you guys were spiking the football and saying the whole thing was a hoax. I can give you a link if you like.
Texas reports record-breaking coronavirus hospitalizations, the sixth new high in a week
There were 2,287 Covid-19 patients in hospitals on Sunday, up from 2,242 patients on Saturday, according to updated data from the Texas Department of State Health Services.www.cnbc.com
I wouldn't say that. I'm not sure there was much of a choice but to reopen. But there always was going to be a price to it. As for the timing, it's not turning on a faucet. People venture out tentatively at first and then get more and more confident/sloppy. Then you have the people who were sick getting better so you have many of the sick recovered and no longer able to spread. Yes any one person may get the virus and take 5-12 days to manifest but perhaps the people getting sick are young and not getting tested. So then they spread it to their friends who also don't get tested, but eventually to their friend who lives with their extended family and then the older individuals get ill enough to present. So there is a bit of inertia to these things.I notice they blame the State reopening on April 30th as part of the cause. But with 5-12 days to show symptoms doesn't that appear to be a pretty weak argument to blame something that happened 6 weeks ago?
No, the stay at home orders were appropriate as we had a logarithmic growth in cases. This has been studied and is generally agreed upon by informed people. We needed to flatten the curve - stretch it out and keep from overloading the hospitals where you lose people you might not otherwise. Also give time for some treatments to be developed (e.g. dexamethasone, not e.g. hydroxychloroquine). People have changed their behavior now - notably at risk people - and we aren't seeing the log spikes, more of a slow burn nationwide.Can we not say the stay at home orders were excessive and not so impactful while at the same time saying protests of thousands of people packed shoulder to shoulder are likely to blame?
Certainly if they catch something and bring it home they are going to be morally responsible. Just the same as the Spring Breakers and the people on beaches. Same as the Trumpers in Tulsa. I'm not really for jailing people as much as educating them. This is my biggest frustration. The fact that you have two media echo chambers that are telling people the opposite things. For fuck sake, we're in this together - it's a PUBLIC health issue.Seems pretty obvious to me. But I'm also not in panic mode. If people want to protest and risk getting sick I think that's their right. Just like going to a restaurant or pool party and having a drink. Since you thought that forced quarantines were justified are you condemning the protests for putting people at risk?
I get that. But the problem is it displays incredible lack of self awareness.I think you have one side wanting to have it both ways, though.
In one breath they want to tell you this is far from over and it’s irresponsible to re-open businesses and go to church, while in the next breath they give no fucks when it comes to lunatics out arm and arm protesting something that literally everyone thinks is an injustice and is open to fixing.
Either it’s bad all the time or none of the time. The mainstream liberal media wants to have it both ways.
The conservative media I’ve noticed is railing against that idea. They’re essentially saying if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.
Nobody credible is saying this. You're setting up a straw man.You know what else makes me belly laugh about this shit?
The media was just gaining traction on the virus being a racist virus because black and brown people were getting the virus at a disproportionate rate.
Then they drop it and tell blacks that they can go out and riot together. Rona be damned.
How are you going to act like you care about people, then let them endanger themselves? Fuckin dopes.
I agree nobody credible is saying this. The media lost its credibility a long time ago.Nobody credible is saying this. You're setting up a straw man.
I don’t agree with that. I can maintain my distance from people and respect their personal space on a beach with my family.Also, complaining about people risking illness to protest police violence vs sitting your ass on a beach sucking down coronas is a little different.
Okay, what about protesters in Michigan protesting for their civil rights versus BLM on the streets protesting for their civil rights? Is there a difference there? Because the media would have you believe there is a difference. And, there fucking isn't.I get that. But the problem is it displays incredible lack of self awareness.
Also, complaining about people risking illness to protest police violence vs sitting your ass on a beach sucking down coronas is a little different.
Yeah I don't think the conservative side is condemning protest because of the risk of spread of the virus. They are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the other side. On the other hand the Democrats clearly are picking and choosing what protests are dangerous and which ones that aren't. And it's laughable.Okay, what about protesters in Michigan protesting for their civil rights versus BLM on the streets protesting for their civil rights? Is there a difference there? Because the media would have you believe there is a difference. And, there fucking isn't.
No fucking shit, the left always strawmans our side with "they just want a haircut" or "to go to a bar" when the majority were fighting for the barber and bar owner to earn a living and not lose their lives workOkay, what about protesters in Michigan protesting for their civil rights versus BLM on the streets protesting for their civil rights? Is there a difference there? Because the media would have you believe there is a difference. And, there fucking isn't.
This shit is out of hand. Let's just get this war on and get it over.
Yep, I'm ready, I even changed my boogaloo patch on my kit to a poohgaloo one so Booze can't accuse me of being a white supremacistThis shit is out of hand. Let's just get this war on and get it over.
There is an enormous difference. You are talking about the right to not be harassed, assaulted and murdered by law enforcement vs being asked to restrict your activities for a short period of time in the interests of public health. I get the whole "don't tell me what to do" vibe is strong in the hearts of the RW but sometimes the advice is in your best interest.Okay, what about protesters in Michigan protesting for their civil rights versus BLM on the streets protesting for their civil rights? Is there a difference there? Because the media would have you believe there is a difference. And, there fucking isn't.
JFC you're a pos, people close to losing their businesses and everything they had put their life into and you still want to gaslight that it was just "don't tell me what to do" I swear to God if you show at the DCC convention I'm beating your assThere is an enormous difference. You are talking about the right to not be harassed, assaulted and murdered by law enforcement vs being asked to restrict your activities for a short period of time in the interests of public health. I get the whole "don't tell me what to do" vibe is strong in the hearts of the RW but sometimes the advice is in your best interest.
The virus can't distinguish between political causes or whose protest was more "pure."There is an enormous difference. You are talking about the right to not be harassed, assaulted and murdered by law enforcement vs being asked to restrict your activities for a short period of time in the interests of public health. I get the whole "don't tell me what to do" vibe is strong in the hearts of the RW but sometimes the advice is in your best interest.
You know you never hear that shit from the left.This shit is out of hand. Let's just get this war on and get it over.
Well no shit but that's not really the point.The virus can't distinguish between political causes or whose protest was more "pure."