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Cowboysrock55

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Black guy pops two elderly white people in a cemetery. This will get a fraction of the Arbery coverage.

I agree. I hate that when a white person kills a black person that the automatic assumption is that it was racist motives. Can't we just look at the person committing murder all as the same? A horrible human who did something awful?
 

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  • A deputy who was fired for his inaction during the Parkland school shooting in 2018 has been reinstated, and will receive full backpay and seniority, the police union said Wednesday.
  • An arbitrator found that the Broward County Sheriff's Office violated Sgt. Brian Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.
  • Miller has defended his conduct during the shooting, telling investigators he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help."
  • A report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.
A deputy the Broward County Sheriff's Office fired for hiding behind his car during the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida, has just won his job back — along with full backpay for the months he was off the job, according to the police union.

Sgt. Brian Miller was one of four deputies who were fired last year for their alleged inaction during the shooting. His reinstatement came after an arbitrator said the sheriff's office violated Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.

Miller's attorney, Gary Lippman, said at a news conference Thursday that the union had been prepared to address Miller's firing "on the merits," but first filed a motion addressing the violation of his procedural rights.

Miller earned $137,000 in 2018, including his salary, overtime, medical reimbursements, paid holidays, and other time off, The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.


A 2019 report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission found that Miller and seven other sheriff's deputies were at or near the high school at the time of the shooting on February 14, 2018. None of them immediately took action, the report said.

The most notorious case was that of the former deputy Scot Peterson, the school resource officer who was on campus when the shots broke out, yet failed to confront the gunman. Peterson was arrested last June and charged with neglect of a child, culpable negligence, and perjury. He pleaded not guilty.

The former Broward County sheriff, Scott Israel, was also fired by Gov. Ron DeSantis for "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."

The commission report found no evidence Miller had directed deputies toward the gunshots he heard
Miller defended his conduct during the shooting to investigators, saying he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help." But the report said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.

"Despite Sergeant Miller's claims, his first radio transmission was at 2:32:08, approximately ten minutes after the first radio traffic about the shooting and approximately five minutes after his arrival," the report said. "There is also no evidence that that Miller effectively 'directed resources' and no evidence that he directed deputies toward the gunshots that he heard upon his arrival."

Eventually, when the Coral Springs Police Department arrived at the scene and rushed into the school, officers reported seeing Miller and other deputies staying on a nearby road instead of entering the campus, the report said. Other officers also reported seeing Miller and other deputies taking cover behind their cars.

"Any law enforcement officer — regardless of rank — who arrives at the scene of an active shooter while shots are still being fired has an obligation to pursue the sound of those gunshots and confront the shooter, but Sgt. Miller remained behind his car in a position of personal safety," the report said.

Family members of the 17 shooting victims were outraged by the news. Ryan Petty, whose daughter Alaina was killed in the massacre, tweeted that Miller should resign.
 

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  • A deputy who was fired for his inaction during the Parkland school shooting in 2018 has been reinstated, and will receive full backpay and seniority, the police union said Wednesday.
  • An arbitrator found that the Broward County Sheriff's Office violated Sgt. Brian Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.
  • Miller has defended his conduct during the shooting, telling investigators he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help."
  • A report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.
A deputy the Broward County Sheriff's Office fired for hiding behind his car during the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida, has just won his job back — along with full backpay for the months he was off the job, according to the police union.

Sgt. Brian Miller was one of four deputies who were fired last year for their alleged inaction during the shooting. His reinstatement came after an arbitrator said the sheriff's office violated Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.

Miller's attorney, Gary Lippman, said at a news conference Thursday that the union had been prepared to address Miller's firing "on the merits," but first filed a motion addressing the violation of his procedural rights.

Miller earned $137,000 in 2018, including his salary, overtime, medical reimbursements, paid holidays, and other time off, The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.


A 2019 report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission found that Miller and seven other sheriff's deputies were at or near the high school at the time of the shooting on February 14, 2018. None of them immediately took action, the report said.

The most notorious case was that of the former deputy Scot Peterson, the school resource officer who was on campus when the shots broke out, yet failed to confront the gunman. Peterson was arrested last June and charged with neglect of a child, culpable negligence, and perjury. He pleaded not guilty.

The former Broward County sheriff, Scott Israel, was also fired by Gov. Ron DeSantis for "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."

The commission report found no evidence Miller had directed deputies toward the gunshots he heard
Miller defended his conduct during the shooting to investigators, saying he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help." But the report said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.

"Despite Sergeant Miller's claims, his first radio transmission was at 2:32:08, approximately ten minutes after the first radio traffic about the shooting and approximately five minutes after his arrival," the report said. "There is also no evidence that that Miller effectively 'directed resources' and no evidence that he directed deputies toward the gunshots that he heard upon his arrival."

Eventually, when the Coral Springs Police Department arrived at the scene and rushed into the school, officers reported seeing Miller and other deputies staying on a nearby road instead of entering the campus, the report said. Other officers also reported seeing Miller and other deputies taking cover behind their cars.

"Any law enforcement officer — regardless of rank — who arrives at the scene of an active shooter while shots are still being fired has an obligation to pursue the sound of those gunshots and confront the shooter, but Sgt. Miller remained behind his car in a position of personal safety," the report said.

Family members of the 17 shooting victims were outraged by the news. Ryan Petty, whose daughter Alaina was killed in the massacre, tweeted that Miller should resign.
Shit like this is why I hate unions
 

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Yeah. He's going to receive nearly a quarter million dollars, his job, and his seniority because of this bullshit.
I hope he gets heckled as the coward he is anytime he's in public
 

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  • A deputy who was fired for his inaction during the Parkland school shooting in 2018 has been reinstated, and will receive full backpay and seniority, the police union said Wednesday.
  • An arbitrator found that the Broward County Sheriff's Office violated Sgt. Brian Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.
  • Miller has defended his conduct during the shooting, telling investigators he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help."
  • A report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.
A deputy the Broward County Sheriff's Office fired for hiding behind his car during the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida, has just won his job back — along with full backpay for the months he was off the job, according to the police union.

Sgt. Brian Miller was one of four deputies who were fired last year for their alleged inaction during the shooting. His reinstatement came after an arbitrator said the sheriff's office violated Miller's due process rights by firing him two days after a 180-day window.

Miller's attorney, Gary Lippman, said at a news conference Thursday that the union had been prepared to address Miller's firing "on the merits," but first filed a motion addressing the violation of his procedural rights.

Miller earned $137,000 in 2018, including his salary, overtime, medical reimbursements, paid holidays, and other time off, The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.


A 2019 report from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission found that Miller and seven other sheriff's deputies were at or near the high school at the time of the shooting on February 14, 2018. None of them immediately took action, the report said.

The most notorious case was that of the former deputy Scot Peterson, the school resource officer who was on campus when the shots broke out, yet failed to confront the gunman. Peterson was arrested last June and charged with neglect of a child, culpable negligence, and perjury. He pleaded not guilty.

The former Broward County sheriff, Scott Israel, was also fired by Gov. Ron DeSantis for "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."

The commission report found no evidence Miller had directed deputies toward the gunshots he heard
Miller defended his conduct during the shooting to investigators, saying he'd heard the shots but had problems communicating over his radio, and was "trying to get resources and people in places to help." But the report said those claims were inconsistent with radio recordings and witness statements.

"Despite Sergeant Miller's claims, his first radio transmission was at 2:32:08, approximately ten minutes after the first radio traffic about the shooting and approximately five minutes after his arrival," the report said. "There is also no evidence that that Miller effectively 'directed resources' and no evidence that he directed deputies toward the gunshots that he heard upon his arrival."

Eventually, when the Coral Springs Police Department arrived at the scene and rushed into the school, officers reported seeing Miller and other deputies staying on a nearby road instead of entering the campus, the report said. Other officers also reported seeing Miller and other deputies taking cover behind their cars.

"Any law enforcement officer — regardless of rank — who arrives at the scene of an active shooter while shots are still being fired has an obligation to pursue the sound of those gunshots and confront the shooter, but Sgt. Miller remained behind his car in a position of personal safety," the report said.

Family members of the 17 shooting victims were outraged by the news. Ryan Petty, whose daughter Alaina was killed in the massacre, tweeted that Miller should resign.
Unreal.
 

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Comments, Steve Kerr and Lebron?
 

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China is our enemy.
 

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China is our enemy.
Their aggressive pursuit of global dominance by seemingly any means necessary, coupled with being a communist regime that doesnt allow free speech, its litany of human rights abuses, the propping up of the N Korean dictatorship so "The West" doesnt have a presence on their border, etc, etc should scare everyone on the planet who appreciates freedom, democracy, free speech, etc

Seems to me, history has shown us these types of regimes rarely go away easily or without massive loss of life
 

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China is our enemy.
Yep. A lot moreso than Russia. With Russia the economic tussle is about oil. With China the economic tussle is practically about everything. The US has made the China economic structure with us becoming a consumer nation and allowing them to be the primary producer. When Trump intervened to try to change this consumer attitude then they have gone ballastic. If they have any hand in causing this current pandemic they are very stupid because you never want to alienated your best customers or put them in a position wher the economy does no longer permit your customer to buy because of having a swelling unemployment and no funds to buy.
 

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China is our enemy.
True, but it's gonna be hard to convince consumers to pay more for clothes, sneakers, pharmaceuticals and iPhones if all that manufacturing is brought home. Apple and Nike don't give a shit about human rights, and their customers probably aren't that far behind.
 

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China isn't our enemy in the same sense that Germany and Japan were in 1940, nor even in the same sense that the USSR was in 1960.

More like the USSR in 1980 maybe.

I'd say they are dirty and antagonistic and seeking to increase their own wealth (the ruling class anyway) and influence at the expense of ours, but I don't think they want us dead even like the Soviets kinda did.
 

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China isn't our enemy in the same sense that Germany and Japan were in 1940, nor even in the same sense that the USSR was in 1960.

More like the USSR in 1980 maybe.

I'd say they are dirty and antagonistic and seeking to increase their own wealth (the ruling class anyway) and influence at the expense of ours, but I don't think they want us dead even like the Soviets kinda did.
Let me rephrase. China is the entire world's enemy.
 

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True, but it's gonna be hard to convince consumers to pay more for clothes, sneakers, pharmaceuticals and iPhones if all that manufacturing is brought home. Apple and Nike don't give a shit about human rights, and their customers probably aren't that far behind.
True, we can't bring everything home. But we can move it to friendlier low labor cost countries.
 

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from one commie nation to another. I guess this constitutes progress.

 

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from one commie nation to another. I guess this constitutes progress.

Vietnam is steaming towards Capitalism, I've heard.
 

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from one commie nation to another. I guess this constitutes progress.

It gets them out of China, so, yeah, I would call that progress.
 
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