2023 Cowboys Coaching Staff Thread

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I wondered that too. I don't think he had any previous connection to Edwards, did he? There was more of a connection to here earlier in his career, the Zimmer connection, and Mike going against him in division.
Edwards had no ties to him and neither did Lett, as far as I know those are the only defensive assistants to go, so it does make you wonder.
 

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Once Pollard went out it was pretty evident that there was no respect for our run game. Our offense just looked different once Pollard went out.
Yea we were on pace for two TD's in the first half until Pollard went down, the offense was a bit stale overall but it was pretty decent while Pollard was in. Once he went out and took the running game with him it was basically over.
 

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The team came pretty close this season to contend for the SB. With a few changes to the offensive lineup it’s possible they could have gone further but we will never know because the current QB isn’t consistent and you never know which one will show up on game day . San Fran is on target with a rookie QB but he is consistent. It hard to say he will remain that way but the Dallas QB has established himself a while ago that he is streaky and you never know which one will show up. Thats why it may be difficult to revamp the schemes or it may not be but what is predictable is that you don’t know what game Prescott will bring.
I'll just say that Kellen doesn't have a good track record of adjusting. He doesn't adjust well to what the defense is doing, doesn't adjust to his QB's limitations, and he doesn't adjust to the game's dynamics.

His offensive "philosophy" is, like you say, dependent on a QB being consistently great.

So with an Aikman or Manning, he might never need to adjust his playcalling.

Working with a mid-tier QB, though, he's got to call each offensive series differently.

Instead, we continue to have one of the most predictable offenses in the league...so much so that it's basically a joke.

I do agree think that if we had Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, Kellen Moore could get us to the Super Bowl with his offense.
 

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I'll just say that Kellen doesn't have a good track record of adjusting. He doesn't adjust well to what the defense is doing, doesn't adjust to his QB's limitations, and he doesn't adjust to the game's dynamics.

His offensive "philosophy" is, like you say, dependent on a QB being consistently great.

So with an Aikman or Manning, he might never need to adjust his playcalling.

Working with a mid-tier QB, though, he's got to call each offensive series differently.

Instead, we continue to have one of the most predictable offenses in the league...so much so that it's basically a joke.

I do agree think that if we had Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, Kellen Moore could get us to the Super Bowl with his offense.
You have an OC dumb enough to put Zeke out wide multiple times, but then a QB dumb enough to throw it to Zeke multiple times.

Who’s the bigger nincompoop?
 

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You have an OC dumb enough to put Zeke out wide multiple times, but then a QB dumb enough to throw it to Zeke multiple times.

Who’s the bigger nincompoop?
The one calling the stupid ass play.
 

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You have an OC dumb enough to put Zeke out wide multiple times, but then a QB dumb enough to throw it to Zeke multiple times.

Who’s the bigger nincompoop?
If the situation calls for a play going wide because the middle is stacked then the real problem you have Is The QB is Dak and the receiver is Zeke.
 

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He actually put Zeke at center, this dipshit.
If I had to make a simple choice of keeping Moore and trying to replace the QB and Zeke as the running back I know what direction I would go. I would replace the players. They are past their prime ability but Moore has a lot of headroom for adjustments with the right personnel.
 

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If I had to make a simple choice of keeping Moore and trying to replace the QB and Zeke as the running back I know what direction I would go. I would replace the players. They are past their prime ability but Moore has a lot of headroom for adjustments with the right personnel.
Absolutely not.
 

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Moore's scheme is an outmoded derivative of the old Garrett/Linehan/Norv Turner system. He played under Linehan in Detroit (there'a a great organization) and then again in Dallas. He was made QB coach after the useless Wade Wilson retired, then OC under Garrett, who also a disciple of that system. He has no credentials beyond that.

Defenses (under good coaching staffs) have obviously figured it out. Time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.

(Of course, Jerry won't do that because it was Jerry's decision to make Moore OC. Took Jerry 10 years to get rid of Garrett. Took the NYG less than a year to get rid of him. And you wonder why this organization has a 28 year record as perennial bridesmaids?)
 

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Moore's scheme is an outmoded derivative of the old Garrett/Linehan/Norv Turner system. He played under Linehan in Detroit (there'a a great organization) and then again in Dallas. He was made QB coach after the useless Wade Wilson retired, then OC under Garrett, who also a disciple of that system. He has no credentials beyond that.

Defenses (under good coaching staffs) have obviously figured it out. Time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.

(Of course, Jerry won't do that because it was Jerry's decision to make Moore OC. Took Jerry 10 years to get rid of Garrett. Took the NYG less than a year to get rid of him. And you wonder why this organization has a 28 year record as perennial bridesmaids?)
Don’t forget, the defense ain’t taking the fall for the playoff loss to 9ers. It’s on the offense, and on Dak in particular. Dak isn’t budging, so then we look at Moore. Moore has been undressed twice by SF in succession.
Time is up.
Jerry doesn’t have long now.
 

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Moore's scheme is an outmoded derivative of the old Garrett/Linehan/Norv Turner system. He played under Linehan in Detroit (there'a a great organization) and then again in Dallas. He was made QB coach after the useless Wade Wilson retired, then OC under Garrett, who also a disciple of that system. He has no credentials beyond that.

Defenses (under good coaching staffs) have obviously figured it out. Time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh.

(Of course, Jerry won't do that because it was Jerry's decision to make Moore OC. Took Jerry 10 years to get rid of Garrett. Took the NYG less than a year to get rid of him. And you wonder why this organization has a 28 year record as perennial bridesmaids?)
Moore was learning schemes when he was a youngster from his dad . He isn’t locked in on something he learned from his experience as a college player or pro player or coach. Football is a way of life for him.He isn’t a novice. Norv Turners system put some trophies in the Cowboys showcase By the way.
 

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Norv Turners system put some trophies in the Cowboys showcase By the way.
I know you're aware of the last time this team occupied anything resembling that rarefied air. Dont act like it has some sort of relevance to the modern game.
 

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I know you're aware of the last time this team occupied anything resembling that rarefied air. Dont act like it has some sort of relevance to the modern game.
Oh shit! That statement just is so much self centered drivel. The game of football has been around for a long time and the basis of the game is essentially the same. You think the days of Norv Turner and Jimmy Johnson and SuperBowl trophies are irrelevant? Or how about Johnny Unitias and others of his era are they would be players? Have you ever seen teams play when the Arizona Cardinals were the Chicago Cardinals. Then there is Bobby Lane and his days with the Detroit Lions. I could go on an on. All the names I mentioned I have seen play in person and many more. You probably don’t know who Jerry Rhome or Howard Twilley were. Don’t try to make me believe football only became relevant in the last 20 years or when you started watching it. The most change Football has made over the years is it has became more violent and sportsmanship isn’t practiced nearly as much as it should be. The playing field is still 100 yards long but the goal posts are repositioned. So now tell me when did it suddenly become something past itself and become relevant.
 
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