Dak Watch Thread...

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Stats can be manipulated to paint inaccurate pictures as well. Stats can, and often do, mislead.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Why do people have to be biased? It’s not at all possible that someone can have an impartial opinion? You guys are acting like i’m sitting in my basement twirling my mustache trying to find ways to say Dak sucks. I’ve went above and beyond trying to reiterate that though I don’t think he’s elite, he is a good QB.

Yet some people are acting like that sentiment is the hot take of the century. In which case, i’ll cut to the point then. Do you two think Dak is an elite quarterback? I’m saying top five in the NFL, that range.

Everyone is biased to some degree. It's not even intentional necessarily. But if you're a football fan you're biased in some capacity, good or bad. And if you don't like football, you have no idea what's going on anyway.

 

[ravidubey]

Whatever happens, we have to get Dak a defense and some decent coaching.

The OL is about to crumble to the middle of the pack

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I watched Mark Rypien float bombs after bombs deep down the field and his WR's ran under them. They got open a lot. His line protected him really well.

I see the same kind of thing from Dak, the WR is open and he throws. If it's a deep pass it's a safe one-- his guy can run under it, or it will fall incomplete. He's not throwing them open, and it's rare for him to improvise and why, tell me why he can't look off safeties? Dak doesn't create. With the talent he has around him, maybe he hasn't had to.

Safe is good. But it only gets you so far, unless you've got a Tampa 2002 or Ravens 2000 defense with great running games. Those are kind of rare.

I believe he's our best chance and he should be well-paid. But I'm not going to pretend the stats he's accumulated behind outstanding talent are a true representation of his ability.

So now Dak is Mark Rypien

Guys have career years playing with Dak. Yet it's not because of Dak or anything. You have a giant blind spot when it comes to Dak.

 

[ravidubey]

So now Dak is Mark Rypien

Guys have career years playing with Dak. Yet it's not because of Dak or anything. You have a giant blind spot when it comes to Dak.

And Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders had career years under Mark Rypien.

They were also pretty good with other QBs, just like Cooper and Beasley, the "guys" to whom you refer.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

Everyone is biased to some degree. It's not even intentional necessarily. But if you're a football fan you're biased in some capacity, good or bad. And if you don't like football, you have no idea what's going on anyway.

I understand that, but even taking that into consideration, people shouldn’t be disregarded just because their opinions may not fall in step with a couple of statistics. Especially when it’s something that I feel is as reasonable as say, Dak is a good QB, not an elite one.

 

[Stasheroo]

So now Dak is Mark Rypien

Guys have career years playing with Dak. Yet it's not because of Dak or anything. You have a giant blind spot when it comes to Dak.

Agendas on parade.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I understand that, but even taking that into consideration, people shouldn’t be disregarded just because their opinions may not fall in step with a couple of statistics. Especially when it’s something that I feel is as reasonable as say, Dak is a good QB, not an elite one.

I mean if your opinion is that Dak is a 6-10 QB instead of a top 5 I don't think there is really anything wrong with that opinion. Some stats back that up. It's perfectly reasonable in my opinion.

Some people just seem to have an axe to grind with Dak. Every time he does what they claim he couldn't they move the ball and find another reason why he "isn't that good"

 

[Stasheroo]

I mean if your opinion is that Dak is a 6-10 QB instead of a top 5 I don't think there is really anything wrong with that opinion. Some stats back that up. It's perfectly reasonable in my opinion.

Some people just seem to have an axe to grind with Dak. Every time he does what they claim he couldn't they move the ball and find another reason why he "isn't that good"

 

[DontCryWolfe]

I mean, that was only my point the whole time, but okay.

 

[Cujo]

I mean, that was only my point the whole time, but okay.

Same. I guess you can either believe Dak is elite and worthy of whatever he asks for or you're obstinate and refuse to acknowledge his indisputable greatness.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Guys have career years playing with Dak.

Who are you referring to?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Who are you referring to?

Cooper and Gallup last year had the best years of their careers. Cobb had the best season he has had in like half a decade. The last time he had a better season was 2014.

 

[Stasheroo]

Cooper and Gallup last year had the best years of their careers. Cobb had the best season he has had in like half a decade. The last time he had a better season was 2014.

And the offense put up more yards than any other in the league. But I guess we need to ignore that too?

 

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Daunte Culpepper.

Dak will be starting QB for Miami in 3 years.

 

[ravidubey]

Daunte Culpepper.

The analogy might be appropriate

 

[Genghis Khan]

Cooper and Gallup last year had the best years of their careers. Cobb had the best season he has had in like half a decade. The last time he had a better season was 2014.

None of those are career years in reference to Dak.

Beasley is the best argument of a career year under Dak, but he didn't replicate it.

 

[Smitty]

I agree, people still cling to reputation concepts with Dak that aren't true.

Then there are those who argue against the stats.

 

[Smitty]

Compared to statistics?

Absolutely.

This is silly. Neither is worthless.

 

[Smitty]

shelter in place is indeed beginning to impact some of us.

It’s only impacting one of us, and if we’re up to me, it’d quickly be zero of us.