Dak Watch Thread...

[ravidubey]

I would put Dak ahead of Jim G.

But they have limitations, so in that sense Dak is like him.

Dak has ridiculous offensive talent and Garoppolo has insane defensive talent and a league that forgot how to defend his dad’s one cut zone blocking scheme.

Eli had similar limitations until the 2007 postseason when he started hitting crazy big throws. But he had pedigree the other two lack.

 

[jsmith6919]

I would put Dak ahead of Jim G.

But they have limitations, so in that sense Dak is like him.

Dak has ridiculous offensive talent and Garoppolo has insane defensive talent and a league that forgot how to defend his dad’s one cut zone blocking scheme.

Eli had similar limitations until the 2007 postseason when he started hitting crazy big throws. But he had pedigree the other two lack.

Eli had insane luck by having a wr catch a pass against their helmet

 

[Stasheroo]

Based on what I'm reading, the holdup at this point is more about years than dollars. Dak and his agent know that the cap, and by extension player salaries, will be going up significantly under the new CBA. And teams like the Eagles and Rams realized that too, and that's why they seemingly rushed to get their quarterbacks signed even when they didn't have to.

Now that they have, those teams can pay more now with the ability to save big later on, or to cut bait if things don't turn out as they had hoped. Wentz' deal is already looking like a bargain, at an average of $32 million a year, and Goff's is heavily front-loaded, giving the Rams an out clause if they choose, or much lower costs down the road. Goff's deal averages $33.5 million a year.

Hypothetically, would you do a deal that pays a bit less than that in exchange for getting at some of that bigger cap money down the line? Is this a deal that works for the Cowboys?

It seems like a shorter deal, for a bit less money, and betting on yourself to get at even bigger money down the road, is a compromise that might finally get this deal done.

Thoughts?

 

[p1_]

Admins probably wishing you put this in the Dak franchise tag thread

 

[Stasheroo]

Admins probably wishing you put this in the Dak franchise tag thread

Sorry, I wasn't aware that there was any such requirement or restrictions.

 

[p1_]

Sorry, I wasn't aware that there was any such requirement or restrictions.

There’s not, but these boys like things in a certain order. Housekeeping and all.

 

[Cotton]

There’s not, but these boys like things in a certain order. Housekeeping and all.

I merged the two and renamed it. We can put all Dak stuff in here.

 

[Cotton]

Sorry, I wasn't aware that there was any such requirement or restrictions.

There are no set requirements or restrictions. It just makes it easier to search for something if everything is in one place.

 

[data]

Eli >>>>>>>>> Romo

 

[Cotton]

Eli >>>>>>>>> Romo

Shit-stirrer.

 

[Stasheroo]

There are no set requirements or restrictions. It just makes it easier to search for something if everything is in one place.

OK, I created a separate thread because I wanted to discuss this specific scenario and NOT the subject of the franchise tag. That was my reasoning behind it, because I didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle when it is actually discussing two different scenarios.

But I think your compromise works too.

 

[data]

OK, I created a separate thread because I wanted to discuss this specific scenario and NOT the subject of the franchise tag. That was my reasoning behind it, because I didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle when it is actually discussing two different scenarios.

But I think your compromise works too.

F that. No compromises. Next thing you know, there’ll be his and herms threads up in here. Copy your original post and start a new thread and title it “Would You M’fn Do This?”

 

[Stasheroo]

I heard some numbers the other day regarding the cost of franchise-tagging Dak for this year and the next two.

Under my projected compromise, you have him for three years at $100 million (and effectively, two years at $65 or so guaranteed).

If they tag him at the exclusive rate in 2020, it's $33 million.

Tagging him again in 2021 costs them $40 million.

A third tag in 2022? An obscene $57 million-plus!

So you can hold his rights for 3 years at $100 million, or 3 individual years at $130 million.

The math seems easy.

 

[vince]

It's everywhere now. If this is true, it's time to part ways.

Cowboys were close to $33M per season deal with Dak Prescott, then he asked for more

Stephen Jones said there's a "real urgency" to get a deal done.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Cotton]

F that. No compromises. Next thing you know, there’ll be his and herms threads up in here. Copy your original post and start a new thread and title it “Would You M’fn Do This?”

Your on ignore.

 

[p1_]

There are no set requirements or restrictions. It just makes it easier to search for something if everything is in one place.

Scary I know how you think, sometimes

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It's everywhere now. If this is true, it's time to part ways.

Cowboys were close to $33M per season deal with Dak Prescott, then he asked for more

Stephen Jones said there's a "real urgency" to get a deal done.

www.yahoo.com

Eh this is what happens when agents get greedy. 33 mil a season is fair but we made a mistake not getting the deal done before this last season. He should have been the priority and instead Zeke threw a fit and got his money instead.

 

[Stasheroo]

Eh this is what happens when agents get greedy. 33 mil a season is fair but we made a mistake not getting the deal done before this last season. He should have been the priority and instead Zeke threw a fit and got his money instead.

I'm wondering if the $27 million, non-exclusive tag isn't the way to go?

Even with the 120% bump in 2021, you're looking at 32.4 or essentially two years, $60 million. But that gives you two years to essentially find another quarterback because you can't tag him that 3rd time at over $45 million. At that point, player and agent have all of the leverage over the team.

No easy solution.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Eh this is what happens when agents get greedy. 33 mil a season is fair but we made a mistake not getting the deal done before this last season. He should have been the priority and instead Zeke threw a fit and got his money instead.

Yep. I said if Jones caved on Elliot it would signal trouble especially since Elliot jumped the schedule by two years. When Jones paid that deal he signaled to every agent he would be easy pickings and all a player had to do was hold out and Jones would relent. The ploy by Dak is now threatening Jones with an ultimatum and that should never happen because he isn’t at the level that he can legitimately make those kind of demands. If Jones caves again he has lost all his leverage in the future. Every contract will be met with a holdout threat.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I'm wondering if the $27 million, non-exclusive tag isn't the way to go?

Even with the 120% bump in 2021, you're looking at 32.4 or essentially two years, $60 million. But that gives you two years to essentially find another quarterback because you can't tag him that 3rd time at over $45 million. At that point, player and agent have all of the leverage over the team.

No easy solution.

The leverage the team has is the franchise tag. Which is why they have to threaten it. You can get 33 mil a year and a massive bonus or play for 27 mil next year and who knows. Obviously the 33 mil is better than the franchise tag. And that's the Cowboys leverage in the deal. Without a franchise tag NFL teams would have zero leverage in these situations.