The Great Amigo Thread...

[Green Balloon]

Going into the offseason, I wanted Jaylon Smith with our first. But injury took care of that. I'd take Myles Jack. I'd take Joey Bosa. I'd take Laquon Treadwell. I'll even strip my gears slamming my agenda into reverse and I will take Ezekial Elliott because it is obvious to me that our biggest loss of 2015 was DeMarco Murray. Yes, even more than Romo's injury. I don't want a QB. I want a player in the first that will contribute immediately. Not one that will sit on the bench.

Having said all of that I would freaking love to grab Jalen Ramsey at 4. Love it I tell you.

When you add to this that Scandrick is coming back from injury, Carr hasn't picked off a pass in forever and can save us over $9M if we cut him post June 1, and Claiborne is a UFA who sign anywhere he wants...and I will tell you it is probably the smartest move we could make.

Moron.

 

[Cotton]

Moron.

He's more of a moron for saying he doesn't want a QB.

 

[boozeman]

He's more of a moron for saying he doesn't want a QB.

He wants a player that will contribute when we are at best in yet another .500 Garrett shitfest.

 

[Green Balloon]

Lawrence Phillips Found dead In His Jail Cell

Talk about a freaking waste of God given talent. I do not know what that guy's demons were, but at least they are silent now.

Million dollar body and a ten cent head.

I will never understand people like him and Rae Carruth. You have the world by the balls and you do this stuff.

Why couldn't my brain and heart landed in that body? I'd have torn the NFL apart. He tore himself and everyone around him apart.

Damn. That's just. Just.

Damn.

 

[boozeman]

Damn. That's just. Just.

Damn.

Jesus Christ.

And of course, even a suicide by an athlete with a clearly tortured soul can be somehow twisted.

INTO SOMETHING ABOUT HIM.

What a fuck.

 

[UncleMilti]

Lawrence Phillips Found dead In His Jail Cell







Damn. That's just. Just.

Damn.

Instead, we have a 300 pound pile of shit that runs the gayest interwebz on the planet. Lawrence is so mad right now. If only he could have been Hostile.

 

[Green Balloon]

There Are Times When I Do Not Want to Believe My Eyes

I don't wander over to the other forum very often. I did just now. The 2nd thread is already panning the 2015 Draft haul. I didn't make it out of the first 5 posts and saw a comment that it is our worst Draft since 2012.

4 players from 2012 are still contributing on this team. That is a bad draft? Holy crap some fans are so damned ignorant it blows my mind. I have no idea who the posters were. I left immediately.

But not before I noticed that the thread is breaking the edict of a sticky thread.

~smdh~

That place gets worse every day.
I still go there daily, but I have a lot of free time too. But it has been getting less and less. most everything you post is immediately bombarded with negativity. I have a long list of ignored idiots, and they still seem to come out of the woodwork.

Can't even create new threads, as they are now getting deleted if not started in the right zone, or what the mods deem as the right zone.
I started a thread yesterday, and did it to be a smart ass. Asking if Garrett did what Arians did, how would they feel and respond, on the clock management issue. That allowed GB to have more time.
And then tied the game.

It got about 12 responses, and just the type of posts I expected. Garrett haters, as well as some saying it was a mistake, but Arians is an aggressive coach...gets a pass....
Then it was deleted. but yet another article trying to be disguised, was warned, then moved. and same thing, all the Garrett haters were able to have a field day.

The double standard of what is acceptable for Cowboys coaches vs. every other coach is getting more and more ridiculous all the time. Arians is "aggressive" for that play call. Garrett would simply be roasted.

That was one of the reasons I started it. I knew it would get the Arians lovers [or any other non cowboys coach lovers] giving a pass, and Garrett haters not. Those posts are 10 to 1 over any real football talk.
I wanted to get a good laugh at all the stupidity there.

Though one poster did say, Garrett would never try that and would run it.

It grinds my teeth when people say Garrett doesn't know how to win games. The only Cowboys coach who has won more is Tom Landry. Part of that of course is longevity, but where the hell were these people in 2014 when a healthy team dedicated to the run was destroying teams and it took a crew of referees to steal a season from us?

I have never seen two coaches try harder to lose a Super Bowl than the two guys at the end of the game last year, and yet because they both have won one, they get passes. You can't bring up other coaches having similar "failures" and I put that in quotes because we all know that if the play works it is genius. They look at a play result and are experts on play calling. It is mindless blather and I am tired of it.

 

[boozeman]

Only Landry has won more. Well only Garrett has been afforded the opportunity to stick around long enough to accumulate the wins. I wonder if it grinds his gears that Wade Philips has a higher winning percentage as Cowboys head coach?

 

[boozeman]

And another thing, since when has Garrett been aggressive like Arians? He has kicked more FGs and allowed more soft prevent than I can count. It was a stupid suggestion to even say Garrett gets roasted because he would never have the balls to do it.

 

[Cotton]

Reading his posts really grinds my teeth.

 

[NoDak]

Only Landry has won more. Well only Garrett has been afforded the opportunity to stick around long enough to accumulate the wins. I wonder if it grinds his gears that Wade Philips has a higher winning percentage as Cowboys head coach?

The only coach that has a lower winning % than Garrett is Dave Campo.

 

[Clay_Allison]

And another thing, since when has Garrett been aggressive like Arians? He has kicked more FGs and allowed more soft prevent than I can count. It was a stupid suggestion to even say Garrett gets roasted because he would never have the balls to do it.

Case in point, Garrett plays for the FG after the Hardy INT vs the Seahawks. Arians goes for the end zone there and probably wins.

 

[Green Balloon]

In response to some Carson Wentz videos.

Like everything I saw. Still would rather not take a QB in round 1.

I want an immediate starter at 4. RB, CB, LB, WR, OT. Tony Romo is a road block to that aim. A great road block, but a road block nonetheless.

I agree some what with you on wanting an immediate starter however Tony doesn't have that many years left and hopefully we will not be drafting this high in a long long time. No better time to draft the future QB of the Dallas Cowboys and let him learn from Tony.

Understand something, if we go QB in round 1, I am not some petulant child who is going to whine that we didn't do what I want, and decide I hate that player and point out every flaw he has with every chance I get. I don't care if we take Goff, Lynch, or Wentz if that is the guy we want. But if you're tying me to QB I at least would rather trade down and add a pick to replace that chance at an immediate starter. I don't like taking RB in round 1, but I'd rather take Elliott than a backup QB, even acknowledging that what you say about the window to replace Tony being true. I don't like drafting scared, and to me taking a QB at 4, is doing that.

I actually think the biggest need is a bell cow RB, so I will say Ezekial Elliott, like Tony Dorsett before him, puts us in the Super Bowl. No, I KNOW that is our biggest need.

And I would still fidget taking a RB in round 1, but I want to win. I'd rather trade down, add picks, and take Elliott than any other option on the board.

 

[Cotton]

Does he seriously believe that if we draft a QB at 4 that we are drafting a backup QB?

 

[Rev]

A road block except when that collarbone breaks again or in another year when his contract becomes too much.

 

[boozeman]

Taking a QB in the top four when you have the chance when practically most of the decent ones are picked in the top ten is "picking scared".

Gosh, he is such a buff fearless bulldog.

Not scared.

Way he was raised.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Come on guys. Just because Romo keeps getting hurt and is getting old doesn't mean we should ever flinch.

 

[Green Balloon]

I just can't see spending a high draft pick on a guy you hope doesn't get to play for 3-4 years. The bang for the buck player, IMO, is Treadwell for the reasons I've already stated.

It paid off for Green Bay.

Yes it did. One time in how many dozens of rolls of the dice?

If we are dead set on taking a QB to develop for 3 to 4 years down the road he doesn't have to be taken in the first round.

I am against a RB in round 1, sort of. I admit openly that I think Ezekiel Elliott is our missing piece of the puzzle to gap 2014 to Super Bowl, along with health. I would take him at 4 over a QB because he can start day one.

If at minimum he gives me 1000 yards per year and 8 scores, at the end of 3 years I've gotten 3000 yards and 24 scores from him. I think he can exceed those numbers. It isn't that I don't think Wentz could become a great QB, it's simply being practical and saying what is our biggest need? To me it is obviously RB.

McFadden did top 1000 yards, but only scored 3 times. As a team we had only 8 rushing TDs all year. Which to me is a glaring drop off from 2014 and 16.

Did we win in 2014? Yes. How? By running the other team into the ground. Did we win in 2015? No. Why? Because we couldn't do that any more despite a dominant OL. We were awful on 3rd and short, and awful on 3rd downs overall. Bringing back a dominant running attack makes more sense to me than believing Tony Romo is fragile and destined to get hurt.

If Romo would have been out in 2014, we wouldn't have seen nearly as dominant a running game as we did. Just like if he was healthy in 2015, our running game would have been eons better. It's pretty obvious that no defense feared our passing attack when Romo was out, and have to back off respecting the pass when he's in.

I don't draft in fear. I draft to win now.

Huh? What does Romo and the passing game going hand in hand with the running game have to do with "drafting in fear"?

I do not draft thinking someone will get hurt.

If we had had a running game this year, Romo's loss might not have killed our season. It simply wasn't good enough.

He'll be back, but I have no desire to be saddled with an ineffective run game. I won't whine like some people do, but drafting a QB in the 1st simply because he might get hurt is tantamount to drafting in fear. I'd rather draft to win.

It's the same to me as playing to win rather than playing not to lose. I am not a fan of conservative in football.

I hope that clarifies.

Again, I don't know what that has to do with what I originally quoted and said. That Romo's presence and absence had a direct and huge effect on our running game. I didn't say anything about the draft and who we should or shouldn't draft.

19 starting QBs in the NFL are first round draft picks. That means 13 are not. Of those 19 first rounders, 7 of them are playing QB for a team other than the one who took them in the 1st. So 12 out of 32 teams got the full benefit due to them in 2015 for their draft work. Two of those 12 were the top 2 players taken last year.

There are ways to develop a QB other than taking him in round 1. I won't bark and howl, but it doesn't thrill me either.

Soooo.... How 'bout them Cubbies?

...

 

[Cotton]

So, didn't McFadden finish like 5th in the league in rushing this year? So, wouldn't that put the onus on the gameplay design since we couldn't even incorporate some kinda passing game to augment that with Romo out?

Also, that little comment about not being a fan of conservative football yet he slurps Garrett's crank every time he finds it in himself to get his fatass to his knees?

 

[data]

Why's he using the 32 starting QBs as a criteria when half of them suck regardless of where they were drafted? Nobody's saying that a 1st round QB is a lock by any means, but if you look at recent playoff teams with more than a single appearance and final four participants, it's primarily 1st round QBs.

Aside from Russell Wilson and Tom Brady (kaepernick, Dalton and Brees were barely out of the 1st), off the top of my head, everyone else is a first rounder.

Roethlisberger, cam newton, Carson Palmer /Alex smith/Peyton (who hostile flushes all three c
ause he's not with the original team that drafted him), Aaron Rodgers, flacco, Matt Ryan, Andrew luck