The Great Amigo Thread...

A Comment About Disappointment With This Site and How Things Are
Hostile said:
This site is unlike any other Cowboys fan forum. This thread isn't an edict from above that is going to get closed. If you have comments, you can speak your mind. It isn't going to be an affront to me as the site owner. I am pretty good at handling disagreement.

How did you end up here? Simply put somewhere along the lines you've shown yourself to be a mature Cowboys fan. That doesn't have anything to do with age. It has everything to do with how you treat others. This place really only has one rule. Simply stated, "We are all Cowboys fans, find a way to get along." That's it. That's all we really ask. I prefer things do not get political because quite frankly the sides hate each other, and I don't want that hate here. 3 guys helped me launch this site. One left for health reasons. One left because I wouldn't push Right leaning politics here. One left because I wouldn't push Left leaning politics here. I presume that means I am doing something right by asking us to discuss politics elsewhere.

I feel exactly the same about religion. If someone posts something personal and someone else says, "You're in my prayers" that is not a religious discussion. That is someone saying words of comfort. Nothing more. I intend to wish you all a Merry Christmas. All holidays are happy. If you want to say back to me Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanza, or Happy Holidays I am not going to be insulted. Please grant me the same courtesy in my wishes to you.

I think we're intelligent and mature enough to do that.

I don't want porn here, and I prefer no horribly foul language, but I believe we're lenient enough to let you know not to blur the lines, and you folks don't. So overall I think this place is really special. You can create your own polls here. You don't need Mods to do it. You can create your own custom avatar title here. Everyone here is equal, and every voice is too. I own the domain, but what I say is not gold here. If you disagree, dammit say so. I happen to be a huge Jason Garrett supporter. Perhaps the biggest out there. I do not expect everyone to toe that line. Please don't think that not liking him puts you in my crosshairs or makes you vulnerable to being asked to leave. That isn't how we operate.

5 guys have been banned here. You have a right to know who they are and why. I have nothing to hide. The first guy to get the gate was Metalhead. He's actually a friend of mine on Facebook to this day, but he's not here. Why? Because he threatened another member. Okay, that's crossing a line. I think we can all agree. He went way too far. We're not going to allow that, ever. I also do not want someone's family attacked. As someone who has felt the burden of that by fellow Cowboys fans it simply isn't going to fly here. Disagreement with each other is fine, but do not go scorched earth on the guy you disagree with.

The second was Rynie. He asked us to ban him. I have no idea why. He unfriended me on Facebook too. He adopted the DCU feelings against me. They aren't mutual.

The third was dbair1967. He and I go back a long way. Long before I joined the site that led to the creation of CZ, he and I were discussing Cowboys football on DMN. I genuinely liked the guy. He was a Mod on DCU, and I know how they feel about me. I asked him to join us here anyway. I told him up front that sharing content from here over there was not going to fly. He did it anyway. Note, if someone from DCU asks you to spy or to use your account, don't do it. Trust me, they do ask. I know all of their IPs and I will find out who does this and I will ban the account. I would do that to my own brother, who is a Cowboys fan, but I've never invited here. He's funny, has a good heart, and is a good guy, but I don't want him here. He isn't mature enough to see any of you disagree with me. dbair1967 crossed a line that I will not tolerate. Not from anyone. I don't want the DCU guys around. It is that simple. Several posters here have DCU accounts. I do not dislike any of them for that. Just be straight with me and I'll be straight with you.

The fourth was CCBoy. I like CC. In fact, I like him a lot. He's a veteran who has some issues due to an injury suffered in the defense of our country. I've actually discussed it with his wife. But he got banned because he went after another member here similar to Metalhead. He was told repeatedly to back off. He couldn't, or wouldn't. Ultimately he decided to go out with a bang. That was his call. I harbor not ill will towards him for it.

The fifth was Lillywhite, also known on CZ as kveavs, and DCU as Cockstrong. He was a DCU spy. It is as simple as that. He is still trying to get access to accounts here. He denied he was a spy. He was lying. He was quite shocked at how he got caught. He said so on DCU. To my knowledge I had never had a cross word with the guy anywhere. Had, past tense. He is now someone who stalks me any time I post on CZ, which is never right now.

That's it. Big bad Hostile, who for years people have accused of being a head hunter at CZ, who banned people for daring to disagree with me, isn't the big bad head hunter after all. I never was. If you believed those things about me, then I apologize. You've been sucked. I banned very few of the guys who are at DCU. Those whom I did, deserved it.

So, how then do we keep growing here? I listen to your recommendations. Someone posed inviting erod, and immediately people spoke up. Understand something, back when I was the Admin at CZ other forum's did share info on problem children. I had already heard about his reputation. Same with Floaty, Nors, tupperware, and other notable "trolls." I trust the membership here. I am not going to put membership to a public vote of yes or no. It sort of happened with erod, but I wasn't going to invite him. Does this mean I have total control of who comes here? No, it doesn't. It means I am going to be extra careful. Quite frankly I don't want to add anyone to the ban list.

I am not looking for this forum to be the biggest. I believe if I opened the door to anyone we could get very big very fast. We discussed going public one time as a staff. Before I ever did that I would give all of you input. If I did it, I would want to make money on clicks. We don't do that. I don't advertise, and I don't sell advertising space here. I haven't made a penny on this venture, and I do not intend to at this time. Maybe if we ever created merchandise, but that isn't my goal. I just want a sane place to discuss our team.

So, what this means is your disappointment in the team isn't causing you issues here. In my opinion, if you love the team in spite of a lousy season you're all right in my book.

Do I think things have gotten bad here? Yes, I do. So bad that I am going to walk away? Nope. I want a sane place to discuss our team. Let me be very direct, I have purposely gone after posters who have access to the team and are good sources. I have some sources with the team as well. I lost my best one last year. I acknowledge that. I want you to get the truth about this team. You're not going to get that listening to fans, ESPN, DMN, FWST, and the normal media outlets. They are all looking for click bait. We know that. The truth is this, despite the record, there is a lot you can be proud of with this team.

I plan to pull back, but it isn't because I am disappointed in anyone here or the tone here. I simply am deciding to try and be healthier than I have been for several years. Sitting behind a desk all day has taken a toll on my body. I want to change that. I won't abandon posting. I won't leave stuff I think is interesting unposted. It just means I am going to give up some hours I spend doing this hobby to try and change me.

I still need your donations to keep this place going. I put in my share as well. If you can't donate, or won't donate, it isn't going to change how I feel about anyone.

There's a guy here who doesn't like me at all. He and I disagreed on adding AD, and I even PMed him to make sure he was cool with how the discussion was going. He assured me he was. Then one day he suddenly got utlra pissed off at me. Since then if someone posts something taking a jab at me or my opinions he likes those posts. He has taken to asking me questions occasionally that echo the DCU guys who think I am a liar. I feel no differently about that poster than I do anyone else here. I want him to enjoy the forum. I don't want to ban him, and I won't unless he crosses one of the lines mentioned above. He's always going to be welcome here unless that happens, and so is anyone else.

How we grow is pretty much up to you as the folks who this place is about. I hope you like it here. Some do not and have left. I harbor no ill will towards those who have. I don't care how you vote, whether you worship or not, and if you do that it is the same deity as me. I don't care if you are male, female, straight, gay, old, young, thin, fat, tall, or short. I only ask one thing of anyone here. Love the Dallas Cowboys and try to get along.

To anyone who doesn't like another poster here, find a reason to bury the hatchet. Dislike Washington, Eagles, and Giants fans instead of your fellow Cowboys fans. If you want to add the Patriots, Steelers, 49ers or any other team's fans to dislike, be my guest. Just respect each other.

That's what this place is about. That is what makes it the best place to talk about our Dallas Cowboys. You can be negative here. You can disagree with me and anyone else. Just be cool about how you do it.
 
Yeah, I'm going to need a TL;DR on that one.
 
I would do that to my own brother, who is a Cowboys fan, but I've never invited here. He's funny, has a good heart, and is a good guy, but I don't want him here. He isn't mature enough to see any of you disagree with me.

Sure that's the reason. I suspect the real reason his brother is not invited is because he knows the real Hos, not the fictitious character that he presents as himself on the internet.
 
Z mann R2 said:
Ya Hos, I really think this season has made so many people act in ways they normally wouldn't. It's honestly a good test to feel out the fairweather/hot headed fans or the folks who turn sour when things get rough......good lord I can't imagine what CZ is like right now. I haven't posted there since you rescued me from that hell by creating this site.

But anyways, the season has been tough. Probably toughest in my my memory (I don't remember 1989 season as I was 7 years old). And being in an office here in Corpus full of Texans fans it's freaking rough. So I don't need to go into a place like CZ where there will be people acting just like fans of other teams do to us. Nope, if I'm getting online for discussion on my team, I want fellow buddies who share the love and common welfare for the team.

I think this place is special and unique too and while it has gotten testy a few times, I think it's always been under control, ESPECIALLY considering the horrendous year we've had.

You'll NEVER see aggresive behavior from me (maybe a little sarcastic but that's it, lol), it's just not in my nature. I've found a home here and thank you for it.

I came here because 'A Touch of Hostility' was moving here, and I stayed because of the fellow community. Thanks again.

GO COWBOYS!

P.S. even though I've been here at CO since the beginning and CZ before that, you'll have to school me on what DCU is and what the purpose of their spies would be. Still a newb in many respects.

Hostile said:
A fan forum full of guys who think they are really cool and funny, but actually are disgusting individuals. They mock my Mom's death and just about anything dealing with my family. There are about 5 of them that if I ever meet in person I will need to be bailed out of jail because I am going to hospitalize them. Human cockroaches.

:lol
 
So, this means what...Sheik, Middie, Sacamano, bbgun and....?

I think there are only five guys there to begin with.

It is kind of like threatening to wipe out the DCC's core membership. Uhh, shouldn't take long.
 
Funny, way back when Hostile joined the old tc.net, he complained of a cabal that made fun of him and his apparently deceased child from the DMN boards.

Sounds to me he invents that shit to get pity.

I bet ol' one armed knife sharpener is probably alive and well, nagging his ass from an extra bedroom in his rented house in Tucson.
 
So, this means what...Sheik, Middie, Sacamano, bbgun and....?

I think there are only five guys there to begin with.

It is kind of like threatening to wipe out the DCC's core membership. Uhh, shouldn't take long.
Don't forget Irv.

As for DCU, that place is just as retarded as the zone. Especially now that they have that moron Doomsday running the show. Only difference is one place is overly pessimistic, the other overly optimistic. Two different sides of the same mongoloid brain.
 
Funny, way back when Hostile joined the old tc.net, he complained of a cabal that made fun of him and his apparently deceased child from the DMN boards.

Sounds to me he invents that shit to get pity.

I bet ol' one armed knife sharpener is probably alive and well, nagging his ass from an extra bedroom in his rented house in Tucson.

He did the same thing when I asked what happened to you and SBK, he said you all created a board just to talk about him.:lol
 
Don't forget Irv.

As for DCU, that place is just as retarded as the zone. Especially now that they have that moron Doomsday running the show. Only difference is one place is overly pessimistic, the other overly optimistic. Two different sides of the same mongoloid brain.

That Doomsday guy is weird. Like a Bizarro Reality. But on a smaller scale.
 
So if you dare to speak negatively about the sad state of the team, that makes you a fairweather fan?
 
Hostile said:
A guy at work is telling me that Panthers players were taunting him with gay taunts because of a dance video that came out with him reeling in a guy he was dancing with.

You can call me politically incorrect and cruel, but gay taunts in football are nothing freaking new. If that set him off then he needs to grow a pair of nads and hope it thickens up his skin.

Oh, and that is why I do not break dance. I dance with women, and two step. No one ever "wonders."
Huh. And here all this time I thought the reason he didn't break dance was because he was a 450lb slob. Go figure.
 
Amazing that no matter what, he makes it about him.
 
Huh. And here all this time I thought the reason he didn't break dance was because he was a 450lb slob. Go figure.

That guy had those faggot insults coming. It was his own damn fault for doing anything to make anyone "wonder". What he gets for not being the masculine two-steppin' with the ladies manly man that is Hostile. Won't even attend his precious nephews high school games because he is an exemplary human being that doesn't tolerate their racist mascot. Berating guys with gay slurs in football is OK though because it is a time-honored tradition. Way he was raised.
 
I would guess that people still "wonder" regardless of who he dances with. I mean what kind of straight man gets on a msg board daily to talk to a bunch of other guys. :unsure
 
Hostile said:
Anyone not wanting Garrett is pissing up a rope. The players love him, the Jones family love him, the scouts, love him, the assistant coaches love him, and this year was an aberration. I predict he's our HC for at least 10 more years.

This year going to hell wasn't coaching. I am sorry to anyone who doesn't see that, but I have no doubt whatsover that it was just one of those years where fate kicked our butts. Put on the big boy undies and let's screw the smiles back on our faces and talk the real world, not the silly fantasy crap.

I admit, while I want Garrett gone mainly for football reasons, part of me wants him fired just to see if this guy will eat a bullet.
 
Is there any way to start a "Hostile is a douche" thread here and make it public? Ya know, just go off the fucking rail on this guy....imagine the traffic we'd have.

I seriously feel my BP go up when I read the guys retarded fucking novels.
 
Is there any way to start a "Hostile is a douche" thread here and make it public? Ya know, just go off the fucking rail on this guy....imagine the traffic we'd have.

I seriously feel my BP go up when I read the guys retarded fucking novels.

Dont let him get to you where it affects your health even a little bit. He just isnt worth it.
 
Is there any way to start a "Hostile is a douche" thread here and make it public? Ya know, just go off the fucking rail on this guy....imagine the traffic we'd have.

I seriously feel my BP go up when I read the guys retarded fucking novels.

Just afraid we might end up losing our in on his site. I don't really want to risk losing the hilarity that we get to see as it stands now.
 
I don't like reading negative things about the team I love. So I hope most will forgive me if I comment very little for a long time. In truth, I have a goal to lose 100 pounds while my daughter is gone for 18 months. I also intend to read "Les Miserables" from cover to cover. If you've ever read Victor Hugo you know that is no small tale.

Wut? Posting will keep him from losing 100 pounds but reading Les Miserables will cause the weight to melt off?

And someone needs to tell him '14 was the aberration. This season is just the correction to get Garrett back to a .500 record.
 
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