2026 Cowboys Draft Chatter Thread

ravidubey said:
His arms are shorter than 31 inches though. No strong edge rusher in the last 20 years has had arms that short.

I know he can play football, but… I really hope someone else takes him before 12
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I hope every team ahead of us thinks this way. I'd have our card in to draft him in seconds.
 
Simpleton said:
Fano's arms measured almost an inch longer at his Pro Day vs. the Combine, supposedly it's somewhat common the last few years.
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I did read or hear somewhere that there were complaints about the guy measuring arms at the combine this year.

You'd think there would be a more scientific way of doing the measurement. It's always funny to me when a guy suddenly "grows"

Anyway, I don't think Bain is that concerned or he would have had a new measurement done at the Miami proday that would have suddenly come up over 31 inches. But I honestly think Bain doesn't really give a shit about it. Something that I really enjoy about his personality. Guy is all about football.
 
NoDak said:
People get too caught up in numbers.

That’s how you end up with the Mike Mamula’s of the world instead of the Terrell Suggs’.

Or Taco Charlton over TJ Watt.
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No, arm length matters and Mamula was drafted to play a scheme he was not a fit for, while Watt was passed upon for the opposite reason.

Scheme fits have nothing to do with this issue. Bottom line, opposing OL can more easily fend off guys with shorter arms. It’s just reality of the NFL vs college.

He won’t be hopeless, the kid clearly has talent. But to ignore what all evidence in the modern game regarding arm length tells you doesn’t make sense either.

No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.

Not a single pass rusher

You ok to risk pick 12 overall over it? I’d rather draft his teammate instead.
 
ravidubey said:
No, arm length matters and Mamula was drafted to play a scheme he was not a fit for, while Watt was passed upon for the opposite reason.

Scheme fits have nothing to do with this issue. Bottom line, opposing OL can more easily fend off guys with shorter arms. It’s just reality of the NFL vs college.

He won’t be hopeless, the kid clearly has talent. But to ignore what all evidence in the modern game regarding arm length tells you doesn’t make sense either.

No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.

Not a single pass rusher

You ok to risk pick 12 overall over it? I’d rather draft his teammate instead.
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I don't give.a.fuck.

His play on the field is what matters, not the measuring tape.
 
ravidubey said:
No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.
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That's just not true. Not even close. And the easiest most obvious example was on this roster up until last year. Parson's arm length was 31 1/2" inches at the combine. Are you saying he didn't have double digit sacks or are you saying his entire career didn't happen in the last 20 years?
 
ravidubey said:
No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.
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???

Micah is 31.5.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
???

Micah is 31.5.
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Kyle Van Noy also had 12.5 sacks with sub 31 inch arms. Markus Golden had just over 31 inch arms and also achieved double digit sacks.

Trey Hendrickson by the way has just 32 inch arms. Technically meeting the bench mark but I'm sure he could easily be over or under depending who is doing the measuring. And he had like back to back 17 sack seasons.
 
Trey Hendrickson is listed at exactly 32 inches.

Thank God he isn't missing that .1 inch or he'd suck.
 
ravidubey said:
No, arm length matters and Mamula was drafted to play a scheme he was not a fit for, while Watt was passed upon for the opposite reason.

Scheme fits have nothing to do with this issue. Bottom line, opposing OL can more easily fend off guys with shorter arms. It’s just reality of the NFL vs college.

He won’t be hopeless, the kid clearly has talent. But to ignore what all evidence in the modern game regarding arm length tells you doesn’t make sense either.

No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.

Not a single pass rusher

You ok to risk pick 12 overall over it? I’d rather draft his teammate instead.
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While NFL teams often treat arm length as a critical threshold, statistical analysis shows little to no direct correlation between arm length and on-field pass-rushing success. Instead, length is primarily used as a draft projection tool to define a player's physical ceiling rather than a guaranteed predictor of their sack or pressure totals.
 
I think there should be some hesitancy over the fact that Bain's arm length is indeed a huge outlier, it's something that has to be considered because there are basically no edge rushers in decades with sub-31 arms.

On the flip side he's seemed to make up for it by developing elite bend and hand use at the POA to keep his frame clean.

Given all that I'm fine with the risk at 12 because if he had 32.5 inch arms he'd be a top 5 lock, but it's still a very notable risk that you have to work through.
 
Simpleton said:
Given all that I'm fine with the risk at 12 because if he had 32.5 inch arms he'd be a top 5 lock, but it's still a very notable risk that you have to work through.
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I don't consider it a notable risk. It's more of just an unknown than what I'd consider a risk.

I actually have zero concern about his arm length causing his pass rush to struggle. I think his arms give him certain advantages. I think it gives him the ability to punch with more power and makes hand fighting better. Same reason why guys with short arms can bench press more. It's a leverage thing.

The only thing I slightly worry about with the short arms is at the finish point. I think wrapping a guy up is easier with longer arms. Batting a ball down is easier with longer arms. Knocking a ball lose by sticking an arm out is easier with longer arms. You think of a pass rusher who overshoots the QB but sticks his arm out and hits the ball while the QB is about to throw. Things that are easier with longer arms.

That's where I go ok, he probably won't be as good at those things compared to the same player with longer arms. But those seem to be minor when it comes to a guy who consistently beats the dude in front of him.
 
ravidubey said:
No, arm length matters and Mamula was drafted to play a scheme he was not a fit for, while Watt was passed upon for the opposite reason.

Scheme fits have nothing to do with this issue. Bottom line, opposing OL can more easily fend off guys with shorter arms. It’s just reality of the NFL vs college.

He won’t be hopeless, the kid clearly has talent. But to ignore what all evidence in the modern game regarding arm length tells you doesn’t make sense either.

No double digit sack guy the last 20 years had arms shorter than 32 inches. That may be a result of draft profiling, but you’d think a short armed guy would have emerged in all that time even by accident out of that pools of thousands of defenders.

Not a single pass rusher

You ok to risk pick 12 overall over it? I’d rather draft his teammate instead.
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I appreciate the time and effort you put into this post, Ravi.

But goddamn you are so wrong it hurts.
 
boozeman said:
I appreciate the time and effort you put into this post, Ravi.

But goddamn you are so wrong it hurts.
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Hey he might turn out to be the one short-armed guy to get double digit sacks in 25 years. The one guy.

You willing to bet pick 12 on that?

If he gets to us, 11 GM’s would have said fuck no, well really 8 since the first 3 picks are fairly set.
 
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