You are getting dumber and dumber.Lol so the individual performances don't have to meet 240 yards to be good. Your season average just has to? This argument is getting dumber and dumber.
Because there is a very strong statistical correlation between winning football games and QB rating. There is basically none with passing yards. Which I posted above. I will say a 95 QB rating goal is a bit arbitrary or a 100 rating which is what I really want. Only because I don't know any statistics that back up that benchmark right this second.If 240 ypg is "arbitrary" then why isn't a 95 rating arbitrary?
You cite 95 QB rating because that's generally what the good QBs have. That is generally reflective of a winning performance. Of course, you can still have a 95 QB rating and lose, and even be a losing QB, but generally 95 is good, because of correlation.
The same correlation exists for that 240-250 ypg barrier.
Generally, below that is bad. Generally, above that is good.
There are exceptions. Cam Newton is one.
But it's not arbitrary or meaningless.
Hey, tell us again how there's no meaningful difference between Prescott and Goff. That's a good one.
Every single game last year that Wentz failed to throw for 200 yards last season he won. Including the Giants...Meaning what? That the guys with the most passing yards didn't always win? Maybe, but that's probably comparing guys who throw for 270 versus 280, maybe the guy with 270 won more of the time.
I bet you see a real strong correlation with passing days of under 200 yards. Look at that stat and then tell me how often that QB wins.
My thoughts throughout most of the game. We were more concerned with milking the clock than anything. But I can't say I blame them. We're obviously relying more on the defense than offense. There's still a lot of improvement needed.The Giants really are a sad panda of a team. It is pretty sad we are struggling to break 20 on them.
Yeah I averaged him over 16 games. But that was when you claimed 250 YPG was the bench mark. What's his career average?Hey, Jared Goff didn't even average 230 ypg last year.
Uh, yes he did. He averaged 253.
~crickets~
First of all, there is not "basically none" with passing yards. Your metric may show that there is low correlation between who passes for more in a game and who wins, and that very well may be true, because if you throw for 270 vs 280, other factors begin to be way more important at that level. But if you only throw for 150 yards, versus a guy who throws 250, there is a very strong correlation between winning and losing there. Again, show me sub-200 yard passing days, or sub 230 yard passing days, and it's correspondence with winning. I bet we see a trend.Because there is a very strong statistical correlation between winning football games and QB rating. There is basically none with passing yards.
Sorry, I agree with you on that.We need a QB debate page, so these arguments can be had but not take over a thread. I think a number of us don't like having to read or scroll through the muck looking for something else in the thread. Maybe Im wrong.
I knew when I saw how many more replies had happened since I last checked in that there were most likely lawyers involved.Thread butchered.
Their defense isn't that good although they were missing Vernon, they have a handful of top tier players but the rest of the guys are mediocre more or less.My takeaway: My god, Eli is horrific anymore. Mind bogglingly stupid they didn't take a QB last year.
Silver lining for them, they might be so bad again this year they get another chance.
Also, why do people claim the Giants' defense is so good? Other than Collins, Snacks, Ogletree, and Jenkins I saw all kinds of spare out there.
I kept wondering last night why they didnt grab Darnold instead. Guess Shurmur felt like he needed to win now imstead of with a rookie QB. That's the only thing I could think of. Eli didnt help them by returning for another year.My takeaway: My god, Eli is horrific anymore. Mind bogglingly stupid they didn't take a QB last year.
Silver lining for them, they might be so bad again this year they get another chance.
Also, why do people claim the Giants' defense is so good? Other than Collins, Snacks, Ogletree, and Jenkins I saw all kinds of spare out there.
Didn't Butler go on ESPN talking smack about the Cowboys last year?Also you can't blame them for bringing in Butler. Not many out there who already know this complex, multifaceted offense.