Trump fires FBI Director James Comey.

[boozeman]

Exactly what I have been trying to say, minus the Sooner crap.

But if he closed it with Guns Up, you wouldn't have said a word.

 

[skidadl]

"Made up lies"? Apparently you have fallen for the "Fake News!" tag. Sad!

I don't buy into half the bullshit, but when you appoint people who within weeks get ousted because they are clearly farting around with the Russians, how is that made up?

There is a shit ton of hysteria against him but he is not behaving like a guy who can handle it. And a lot of it is his own fault. Instead of being a calm rational leader capable of at least talking his way out of it, he has come off like an idiot.

This is right where I am with the entire deal.

 

[skidadl]

The "most of the media is hysterical" line is kind of ridiculous. More often than not they've been vindicated. About every damning thing that's come out about Trump was "fake news" before it was confirmed.

First Russia didn't hack the DNC and it was all just speculation. Then all the intelligence agencies said they did.

Then Russia didn't intervene on Trump's behalf, they just were doing it to hurt the election. Then all the intelligence agencies said they intentionally helped Trump.

Then there was no evidence of collusion. Until Manafort, Stone, Sessions, Page, and Flynn all got busted meeting with Kremlin associates.

Then Comey was fired because he did a bad job. Until Trump admitted it was over Russia.

What the fuck "hysteria" is there. It wasn't until the 3rd time he undermined national interests in a week that the media has even hinted at impeachment proceedings.

By the way during the whole Comey memo thing, Fox News was resurrecting an old conspiracy theory about Hillary.
Because that's what dishonest media does. You think CNN or MSNBC didn't cover the letter Comey wrote saying he was opening up the case into Hillary Clinton?

The real media has flaws, especially cable news. But it's not hysteria, if anything it's there willingness to let Kellyanne Conway on the air to lie for 10 minutes. A responsible news source wouldn't let pundits "spin" the facts for entertainment value. That's why cable news especially has been too fair to Trump. Because they let people debate, and give unwarranted credence to, his bald face lies.

I'm sorry but this is just totally naive.

 

[boozeman]

This is right where I am with the entire deal.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Barely 100 days in...there will be much more.



Like what? It's all alleged.

End for the night. Don't get your hopes up.

You funny man.

 

[2233boys]

THIS is exactly what I have being trying to spread. I am by no means a Trump fan, but spreading lies and ignorance is exactly what the mainstream media wants. Make the country as divisive as ever, and we will eventually get our way. They are dirty, despicable pieces of shit. They are what just very well could take this country down. What's sad is, because of the political score keeping, they have most Trump haters right in the palm of their hands. Very similar to how Fox News had a lot of Obama haters in the same situation. It's pathetic.

FFS. You aren't a Trump fan, but you are propagating his bullshit media conspiracies, fake news (which he and his office are the biggest perpetrators of fake news), plus you said you voted for him.

Color me skeptical.

If you want to know what is making the country divisive look no further then the two party system and blind loyalty to ideology. I respect people (like Smitty) who don't just keep voting for one of the two parties and vote their beliefs. I wasn't strong enough to do that this time.

Trump wants us to distrust the media so he can do whatever he wants don't fall into his con.

The media has it's issues, and I've railed against them before. It isn't really about Fake News (i.e. lies) like the Orange Twittler talks about. It is fake news in the sense that they don't focus on issues that matter to the American people but on stories, like are you running for president in 2020, and other shit like that.

 

[2233boys]

If shit needs to change then you need to start voting third party at the expense of a couple of elections in the near future.

We need to change election laws too. We are set up for this two party horseshit because it keeps the man in power. It is corrupt Bullshit

I am for a more standardized system across the country of ranked balloting, it would give more people a chance to win.

 

[Cotton]

FFS. You aren't a Trump fan, but you are propagating his bullshit media conspiracies, fake news (which he and his office are the biggest perpetrators of fake news), plus you said you voted for him.

Color me skeptical.

If you want to know what is making the country divisive look no further then the two party system and blind loyalty to ideology. I respect people (like Smitty) who don't just keep voting for one of the two parties and vote their beliefs. I wasn't strong enough to do that this time.

Trump wants us to distrust the media so he can do whatever he wants don't fall into his con.

The media has it's issues, and I've railed against them before. It isn't really about Fake News (i.e. lies) like the Orange Twittler talks about. It is fake news in the sense that they don't focus on issues that matter to the American people but on stories, like are you running for president in 2020, and other shit like that.

If you don't think the media is spreading lies and half-truths I'm not sure what to tell you.

 

[Cotton]

We need to change election laws too. We are set up for this two party horseshit because it keeps the man in power. It is corrupt Bullshit

I am for a more standardized system across the country of ranked balloting, it would give more people a chance to win.

I'm down with whatever turns this system on its head. We are being fed Donald Trump and Hillary f'ing Clinton for Christ sake. Something is terrible wrong.

 

[2233boys]

If you don't think the media is spreading lies and half-truths I'm not sure what to tell you.

If you believe that they are spreading lies, just outright lying. Then I have a tinfoil hat for you.

 

[townsend]

I'm down with whatever turns this system on its head. We are being fed Donald Trump and Hillary f'ing Clinton for Christ sake. Something is terrible wrong.

It's actually showing the flaw with two different systems. Democrats had party leadership pick a nominee, and Republicans had no leadership so Tea Party idiots picked the guy who sounded the most like Fox News. I like how France's electoral system works where there's a center left party, a center right party, far left and far right.

Establishment "center" parties tend to run Hillary Clintons, so it'd be nice to have a backup. It'd be nice if we could have chosen between Sanders, Kasich, Clinton, and Trump (decided by a runoff).

 

[Cotton]

It's actually showing the flaw with two different systems. Democrats had party leadership pick a nominee, and Republicans had no leadership so Tea Party idiots picked the guy who sounded the most like Fox News. I like how France's electoral system works where there's a center left party, a center right party, far left and far right.

Establishment "center" parties tend to run Hillary Clintons, so it'd be nice to have a backup. It'd be nice if we could have chosen between Sanders, Kasich, Clinton, and Trump (decided by a runoff).

I would have done backflips if could have gotten Kasich or Rubio.

 

[townsend]

If you believe that they are spreading lies, just outright lying. Then I have a tinfoil hat for you.

Careful, you'll get sent to the cornfield, like Jiggy.

 

[Smitty]

There is so much bias and dishonesty in this post, I really and seriously have no energy to go through it all.

Seriously. Are we sure Townsend isn't a Trump himself?

 

[Rev]

Careful, you'll get sent to the cornfield, like Jiggy.

This is just stupid.

 

[Cotton]

This is just stupid.

Yep.

 

[lostxn]

I'm sorry but this is just totally naive.

This is the thing that annoys me about conservatives. When it's information they don't like, it's "fake news." Libs don't do that. When they were coming after Bill Clinton, nobody said it was "fake." Once it was reported, people pretty much accepted it. They did say it was witch hunt. Which it was. The House impeached him for lying about getting a blowjob from a fat girl with a dash of sexual harassment. Good lord.

Now you have a guy with extensive ties to the Russians and it's all fake.

It's not fake. There is a ton of information to indicate something fishy is going on. If you watch literally any news source except Hannity or Carlson, it's clear there is blood in the water. Even the Fox News anchors are saying how serious this is. Trump is literally doing everything he can to look guilty. I get some of you voted for him, but sooner or later your going to have to have a little intellectual honesty.

 

[lostxn]

It's actually showing the flaw with two different systems. Democrats had party leadership pick a nominee, and Republicans had no leadership so Tea Party idiots picked the guy who sounded the most like Fox News. I like how France's electoral system works where there's a center left party, a center right party, far left and far right.

Establishment "center" parties tend to run Hillary Clintons, so it'd be nice to have a backup. It'd be nice if we could have chosen between Sanders, Kasich, Clinton, and Trump (decided by a runoff).

I totally agree with this. But fuck, we can't even get rid of the Electoral College. Talk about an outdated institution. It was literally designed to stop the inauguration of someone like Trump and it failed. Needs to go.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

We need to change election laws too. We are set up for this two party horseshit because it keeps the man in power. It is corrupt Bullshit

I am for a more standardized system across the country of ranked balloting, it would give more people a chance to win.

We have very different political opinions but one thing you and I always agree on is this.

 

[BipolarFuk]

I voted for Trump because I couldn't stand the thought of 4 more years of socialist bullshit in the oval office. That amongst other things. Her being a felonious traitor for one.

He'll buy this bullshit about Hillary Clinton, but everything going on about Trump is made up lies.