Trump fires FBI Director James Comey.

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And nothing, zero, nada, that Trump has done to squelch this about the Russians has worked. In fact, he is actually egging the shit on, like he is in it to maintain relevance.

You can't script a better comedy.

Sad thing is, this is real life and it is playing out like a TV show, everyday in front of our eyes.
What has he done to "squelch this about the Russians"? Fire Comey? If that's all you got, you ain't got much, because everything else being presented to you is speculation and dishonesty.
 

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If shit needs to change then you need to start voting third party at the expense of a couple of elections in the near future.
 

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If shit needs to change then you need to start voting third party at the expense of a couple of elections in the near future.
I used to believe this way, but have softened on this stance. I think the only thing besides full on revolution now is just hoping we can get the correct leader elected to avoid further damage.
 

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If you hate ignorance, you should be mad at yourself for voting for him. I despised Clinton too.

Nobody stepped up on the GOP side. The Left allowed a run off between Clinton and Bernie fricking Sanders.

Had either side stood for anything about real issues and stopped worrying about winning and their own interests, perhaps things would have been different.

This gross display of a President is what you get when people are compelled (not forced) to choose between the lesser of two evils.

All because of the fear of "throwing a vote away".
It was either Clinton or Trump. If everyone had gone with a throw away vote Clinton would be the President. I rather have him warts an all rather than her.
 

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I'm not mad at myself for voting for him. In the situation presented I would have done so 100 times again. He is a narcissistic asshole, but shit needed to change, and that has already started. He immediately went to work on what he said he was going to do. This whole Russian thing is all bullshit being lapped up by those that were screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO when they got blindsided bt him winning. They literally will stop at nothing to try to discredit him. Lies, deceit, media leaks, intelligence manipulation. All of it.

Do I think he was a great choice for our country? Hell no. Do I think he was the best choice given my reasonable choices? Hell yes. Has he done exactly what he said he was going to do? Uhh, yeah. He just has all of these made up lies about him that people have lapped up that has me even in here defending him to begin with.
"Made up lies"? Apparently you have fallen for the "Fake News!" tag. Sad!

I don't buy into half the bullshit, but when you appoint people who within weeks get ousted because they are clearly farting around with the Russians, how is that made up?

There is a shit ton of hysteria against him but he is not behaving like a guy who can handle it. And a lot of it is his own fault. Instead of being a calm rational leader capable of at least talking his way out of it, he has come off like an idiot.
 

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It was either Clinton or Trump. If everyone had gone with a throw away vote Clinton would be the President. I rather have him warts an all rather than her.
And that is just not rational. And judging by the way you make excuses, I don't think you would have voted "other" if your life depended on it.
 

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What has he done to "squelch this about the Russians"? Fire Comey? If that's all you got, you ain't got much, because everything else being presented to you is speculation and dishonesty.
I'd say having Russian leadership in the White House but barring the "Evil Media" to the point that TASS is the ones who reports it and then you have Putin of all fucking people offering up a transcript, please.

He is so in over his head it is not even funny.

To put it in an analogy that relates to this board's existence, It is like having Campo as the Cowboys head coach fumble about without a clue on how to manage perception and then having fans who got mad at the media who pointed out his incompetence.
 

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"Made up lies"? Apparently you have fallen for the "Fake News!" tag. Sad!

I don't buy into half the bullshit, but when you appoint people who within weeks get ousted because they are clearly farting around with the Russians, how is that made up?

There is a shit ton of hysteria against him but he is not behaving like a guy who can handle it. And a lot of it is his own fault. Instead of being a calm rational leader capable of at least talking his way out of it, he has come off like an idiot.
I think the fake news thing is opposite, and that is where we stand. I don't once believe that Trump did shit with the Russians. I don't think he once had any interaction at all. I don't think he "colluded". I don't think he "conspired". I don't think he did anything in that regard. It's made up lies. That is my opinion simply because the investigation has led to jack and shit.

Is he helping himself, uhh, no. But, that doesn't matter when it concerns the bullshit that has been spewed to sway the public. That is my point.
 

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I'd say having Russian leadership in the White House but barring the "Evil Media" to the point that TASS is the ones who reports it and then you have Putin of all fucking people offering up a transcript, please.

He is so in over his head it is not even funny.

To put it in an analogy that relates to this board's existence, It is like having Campo as the Cowboys head coach fumble about without a clue on how to manage perception and then having fans who got mad at the media who pointed out his incompetence.
How much has he actually "banned the evil media?" I'm seriously asking. I have only heard of a couple of instances. If that's the case, well........
 

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How much has he actually "banned the evil media?" I'm seriously asking. I have only heard of a couple of instances. If that's the case, well........
I was talking about that specific incident, where the very next day there were the Russians and no, the US media was not allowed into the White House.

I am not saying he is going full blown paranoid dictator, but he might if he could if he was paranoid about it.

Has there ever been a President that ever suggested that media briefings be abolished? He did.
 

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I was talking about that specific incident, where the very next day there were the Russians and no, the US media was not allowed into the White House.

I am not saying he is going full blown paranoid dictator, but he might if he could if he was paranoid about it.

Has there ever been a President that ever suggested that media briefings be abolished? He did.
Pretty dang sure that a ton of presidents have not allowed media briefings after touchy visits. Maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it.
 

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I think the fake news thing is opposite, and that is where we stand. I don't once believe that Trump did shit with the Russians. I don't think he once had any interaction at all. I don't think he "colluded". I don't think he "conspired". I don't think he did anything in that regard. It's made up lies. That is my opinion simply because the investigation has led to jack and shit.

Is he helping himself, uhh, no. But, that doesn't matter when it concerns the bullshit that has been spewed to sway the public. That is my point.
He says everything is "fake news" unless it is flattering.
 

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"Made up lies"? Apparently you have fallen for the "Fake News!" tag. Sad!

I don't buy into half the bullshit, but when you appoint people who within weeks get ousted because they are clearly farting around with the Russians, how is that made up?

There is a shit ton of hysteria against him but he is not behaving like a guy who can handle it. And a lot of it is his own fault. Instead of being a calm rational leader capable of at least talking his way out of it, he has come off like an idiot.
How can firing Comey possibly be a motive for Trump to try to cover up any tracks in the FBI investigation? It would be the worst possible thing he could do if he was guilty of colluding with them. Comey wasn't even overseeing the investigation. His Supervisor at the DOJ was in charge because it was a matter of counter intelligence.

There is no doubt that the Russians tried to mess around with the election physchology as they have been messing around with dozens of other matters for years. The allegation however has become that Trump because of his ties was automatically in bed with them and part of the scheme to make it happen even though the efforts whatever they may have been changed nothing. That's a long stretch without any basis for thinking it except for a ploy via the resist movement.

The fact that Trump and others have business interests and ties with them in and of itself isn't an act of treason. Truth be known there are probably many democrats holding office that have business ties with them. Flynn stupidity was in not having an interest it was in failing to disclose it.
 

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He says everything is "fake news" unless it is flattering.
Well, to be fair, a shit ton of the news he is talking about, really is fake.
 

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Pretty dang sure that a ton of presidents have not allowed media briefings after touchy visits. Maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it.
So TASS being the only ones allowed access isn't weird to you? It is clear he is playing chicken with a rabid media every day and I am tired of it. He can stop it but he is not only unwilling, but he is incapable.
 

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How can firing Comey possibly be a motive for Trump to try to cover up any tracks in the FBI investigation? It would be the worst possible thing he could do if he was guilty of colluding with them. Comey wasn't even overseeing the investigation. His Supervisor at the DOJ was in charge because it was a matter of counter intelligence.

There is no doubt that the Russians tried to mess around with the election physchology as they have been messing around with dozens of other matters for years. The allegation however has become that Trump because of his ties was automatically in bed with them and part of the scheme to make it happen even though the efforts whatever they may have been changed nothing. That's a long stretch without any basis for thinking it except for a ploy via the resist movement.

The fact that Trump and others have business interests and ties with them in and of itself isn't an act of treason. Truth be known there are probably many democrats holding office that have business ties with them. Flynn stupidity was in not having an interest it was in failing to disclose it.
In short, some media outlets and distraught people are desperately reaching for some, any, possible reason to justify why they hate him so much. Or, more specifically, how to come to grips with why their bitch lost.
 

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So TASS being the only ones allowed access isn't weird to you? It is clear he is playing chicken with a rabid media every day and I am tired of it. He can stop it but he is not only unwilling, but he is incapable.
I'm not sure what his motives were. I think it's suspicious, but at the same time, with the shit he has had to deal with concerning the shit media, not sure I can blame him for not spanking them.
 
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