jsmith6919
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Wait...I thought this was FAKE CHINA VIRUS!!!!
He deserves every bit of rancor right now considering he told our country repeatedly that it was fake, mask wearing was useless, scoffing at those who wanted schools shut down. Sorry not sorry. He needs to own it.Damn, that sucks. Can you imagine a president dying right before the election? If it ever happened it would be in 2020.
Can't wait to see all the classy reactions from the media/left. Booze's is just a very mild start.
Where did you ever hear that Trump referred to the virus as fake?He deserves every bit of rancor right now considering he told our country repeatedly that it was fake, mask wearing was useless, scoffing at those who wanted schools shut down. Sorry not sorry. He needs to own it.
Do I want him to die from it? No. But if I were someone who lost loved ones because he was irresponsible and careless, I probably would.
CNNWhere did you ever hear that Trump referred to the virus as fake?
Narrative. You have to observe the narrative.Umm... One, he's had several personal friends die from it, so he knows it's not fake. He's also said he's all for masks if one can't social distance. And kids are at almost zero risk so school closings are stupid.
And as for your last paragraph, he's responsible for all 200k deaths just like Joe says, amirite?
So when he ends up fine with minimal symptoms should we say he was right? This is a dumb argument. You can't shut the country down for a year because of a virus that kills like .1 percent.Umm... One, he's had several personal friends die from it, so he knows it's not fake. He's also said he's all for masks if one can't social distance. And kids are at almost zero risk so school closings are stupid.
And as for your last paragraph, he's responsible for all 200k deaths just like Joe says, amirite?
Things opened back up in NC and we are more or less fine.The real issue is that he consistently dismissed it early on as nothing, and then even when the situation became so dire that it was obvious that you couldn't dismiss it anymore, he politicized it and used it to stoke divisions (i.e. masks are unnecessary, states should be opening up in May, and so on).
Because it was mainly hitting "liberal" populations (i.e. major cities) early on he politicized it, as he does everything, insisted that places like Texas, Florida, Arizona and basically the entire south in general didn't need to be shut down, so they opened back up and everything exploded worse over the summer than it had over the first 2-3 months as the virus slowly crept into the less densely populated areas.
What could he have DONE differently?Don’t pay any attention to the fact that Dr. Fauci, under oath, has said that Trump’s actions likely saved 10s of thousands of lives.
Don’t listen to Dr. Birx either. The same Dr. Birx that at the very beginning of the pandemic said, and I quote, “Even if we do everything perfect, 200k people will likely die from this in the United States.”.
I think he trusted Xi early on because he thought he had a good relationship with him and Xi wouldn't directly lie to him. Also the WHO was spouting the China line, as we know.The real issue is that he consistently dismissed it early on as nothing, and then even when the situation became so dire that it was obvious that you couldn't dismiss it anymore, he politicized it and used it to stoke divisions (i.e. masks are unnecessary, states should be opening up in May, and so on).
I thought we all knew that locking everything down doesn't stop the virus, it just delays it. It's basically going to pass through everyplace eventually, it's just a matter of when. Some of those Euro countries who got so much praise a few months ago are now seeing spikes as they re-open.Because it was mainly hitting "liberal" populations (i.e. major cities) early on he politicized it, as he does everything, insisted that places like Texas, Florida, Arizona and basically the entire south in general didn't need to be shut down, so they opened back up and everything exploded worse over the summer than it had over the first 2-3 months as the virus slowly crept into the less densely populated areas.
And you're glossing over the impact of him politicizing common sense shit for his own gain. Yes, there was confusion early on about masks and basically everything else, would you expect anything less in a constantly evolving situation?Things opened back up in NC and we are more or less fine.
I'm not defending the fact that Trump politicizes everything because that's just Trump.
But you are glossing over
What could he have DONE differently?
And in part he was right, the shutdowns advocated by some were unnecessary.
Trump's stated that he was "downplaying," because he didn't want to induce a panic. That is at least rational. As it was, we experienced shortages in several key commodities from fear related hoarding.
Every decision is give or take and some are kinda spinning what his reaction was for their own political benefit.
And only a real dumbass who has a hard on for authoritarian despots would take an autocrat like Xi at his word, especially when you consider that they may be our chief geopolitical opponent at this point in time.I think he trusted Xi early on because he thought he had a good relationship with him and Xi wouldn't directly lie to him. Also the WHO was spouting the China line, as we know.
He wasn't the one telling New Yorkers to go party like normal or San Franciscans to go to the Chinese parade.
And don't forget early on it was Fauci and the Surgeon General who were saying masks were useless or even worse.
I thought we all knew that locking everything down doesn't stop the virus, it just delays it. It's basically going to pass through everyplace eventually, it's just a matter of when. Some of those Euro countries who got so much praise a few months ago are now seeing spikes as they re-open.
I also want to know exactly what he should have done so differently. Every western country has has basically the same result, with us about in the middle. Did every single leader botch it? Or is this just a virus we have very little control over?
I still think Sweden got it right by not locking everything down. Major credit to them for having the guts to think for themselves and not just follow the herd.
And only a real dumbass who has a hard on for authoritarian despots would take an autocrat like Xi at his word
Yea, he's been so hard on China that he basically begged for his help to get re-elected.
Trump has been harder on China than any president in decades. The other party has been much more cozy with them.
The part about loving dictators makes me think it's not worth responding to the rest of the post. Let me guess, he's a Putin agent, right?