President Trump Thread (Part 2)

Genghis Khan

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It’s not that it’s not the EXACT amount

$120B or around there is bad enough.
So why does he feel the need to lie and make it triple the amount?

"Why did he say it was a quintillion when it's only a quadrillion!!!!"

That's how you sound to me.

Meanwhile the point of the discussion is in a completely different universe.
 

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I don't agree or disagree - I simply don't care what the exact number is because it distracts from the actual point that we've given them over $100 billion dollars of taxpayer money and we shouldn't be doing that.

The truth is that I doubt we actually know exactly how much we've sent over there at this point.

But even the lowest estimate we're told is way too much.

THAT'S the point.

If you're quibbling over the exact amount it's simply an attempt at attacking Trump rather than discussing the actual issue of whether we should be massively funding a war in Ukraine that doesn't advance American interests and yet detracts from our ability to do something useful with our public money like pay down the debt.

Whether the exact dollar amount Trump cites is precisely correct or not is an intensely myopic criticism that should be given zero credence whatsoever.

Totally agree. I'm just acknowledging that he does exaggerate, but I don't think it's a big deal.
 

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While I'm concerned that the Supreme Court stopped Trump from demolishing USAID, I don't see how given their ruling on that issue that they'll allow him to unilaterally end the Dept of Education.

That has to go to Congress.

Even if he tries to starve it out, the next President can just beef it up again.
The Impoundment Control Act says the President must report promptly to any deviations in budget authority and otherwise appropriate all funds for the purpose designated by Congress. It’s been the law for 50 years.
 

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"Why did he say it was a quintillion when it's only a quadrillion!!!!"

That's how you sound to me.

Meanwhile the point of the discussion is in a completely different universe.
The really sad part is the people who bitch that he over estimated also aren't able to give an exact amount. Like why the fuck is it an estimation by everyone?

100+ billion but we can't do more than ballpark it? Like get the fuck out of here with the way tax money is carelessly spent.
 

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Junk article. Full of bad things that could happen, but even some of the Trump haters say it isn't happening.

Besides, we know they used our allies to spy on US citizens when they couldn't do it themselves. Maybe they need a little scare.
 

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If Biden or Harris or anyone else not MAGA was lying (oh wait, “exaggerating” like that you’d be calling them out on it, and rightfully so.
 

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If Biden or Harris or anyone else not MAGA was lying (oh wait, “exaggerating” like that you’d be calling them out on it, and rightfully so.
Not really. There are far more important things to focus on, like "The border is closed" or "The border is secure," which are not exaggerations, but blatant, 180-degrees-from-the-truth lies.
 
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If Biden or Harris or anyone else not MAGA was lying (oh wait, “exaggerating” like that you’d be calling them out on it, and rightfully so.
I personally can't remember Biden ever exaggerating financial numbers. I'm sure he did, but I don't recall ever calling him out on it.

I probably did call him out when he would throw out bogus numbers about the economy doing well that were both fabricated and phony. But when you exaggerate the amount of waste going on its a little different? Did Biden or Harris ever speak or care about waste?
 

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I don’t think I remember any president saying anything about it since maybe Clinton, and before that, Reagan.
Yeah, I would absolutely agree with this and frankly Clinton was so long ago I don't really remember much of anything he said. It's a bitch getting older.
 

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If Biden or Harris or anyone else not MAGA was lying (oh wait, “exaggerating” like that you’d be calling them out on it, and rightfully so.
Why is it that you are completely incapable of assimilating the fact that we have all admitted that we recognize that Trump does have numerous faults, but in light of the only other option we had (Harris), who was a massive cluster-fuck, we are willing to accept those faults.

Oh, and not only were Biden/Harris genuinely lying, they and the entire mainstream media were covering it up.
 

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Perhaps Irv needs a refresher. No collision - the left leaning Mueller report.

Clinton colluded with a foreign power though.
 
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