Legalize all drugs yes or no

NoDak

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Strangely enough, the biggest group that seems to be pushing back against it is the younger females. Mothers with kids in school. There are a shit load of adds running that are against it's legalization, and that seems to be the main angle they're taking.

I don't think it will pass this fall. The bill is poorly written, and has some really stupid stuff in it, as far as the regulation and things like that go. But I bet the next time around it passes. It was the same way for medical marijuana. Failed the first time on the ballot, then passed very easily the second time around.
 

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Orrrrrrrrr. . .maybe the evangelicals would do with it what they do with everything else Trump does that isn’t all that Christian of him. Maybe they’d say it isn’t so bad.
Pretty much exactly spot on.

He is pretty much a terrible human being and they voted for him just fine. His opponent will be a total lefty that the evans will never vote for so the damage would be pretty minimal.
 

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I think booze is over estimating what the religious contingent will and won't accept. Recreational marijuana is on the ballot in North Dakota this fall, and there are church leaders up here that are advocating it's legalization.
Strangely enough, the biggest group that seems to be pushing back against it is the younger females. Mothers with kids in school. There are a shit load of adds running that are against it's legalization, and that seems to be the main angle they're taking.

I don't think it will pass this fall. The bill is poorly written, and has some really stupid stuff in it, as far as the regulation and things like that go. But I bet the next time around it passes. It was the same way for medical marijuana. Failed the first time on the ballot, then passed very easily the second time around.
The heathens on this board are out of touch with the evans. Now, you have to be pretty crotchety to be out of touch with that group.
 

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Pretty much exactly spot on.

He is pretty much a terrible human being and they voted for him just fine. His opponent will be a total lefty that the evans will never vote for so the damage would be pretty minimal.
This, the left are running so far left on policies now this wouldn't even move the needle. As for me I've been saying for years to legalize and tax the fucking shit out of it.
 

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This, the left are running so far left on policies now this wouldn't even move the needle. As for me I've been saying for years to legalize and tax the fucking shit out of it.
But that would have the appearance of moving the purpose for legalizing primarily for revenue sake. The other issues argued by pro legalization would then lose credibility.
 

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But that would have the appearance of moving the purpose for legalizing primarily for revenue sake. The other issues argued by pro legalization would then lose credibility.
There are no viable arguments against legalization.
 

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So you agree there are no viable arguments against legalization. Great. You can move along.
I didn’t take a position regarding the legalization of drugs. My comments stated if revenues was the only reason to legalize drugs would that not harm the credibility of other arguments that point out why drugs should be legalized.
 

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I didn’t take a position regarding the legalization of drugs. My comments stated if revenues was the only reason to legalize drugs would that not harm the credibility of other arguments that point out why drugs should be legalized.
No the question is silly. It would just be another reason in the long list of reasons for decriminalization.
 

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[h=1]Marijuana legalization must make War on Drugs' victims whole before companies profit[/h] For Amazon-owned Whole Foods to get the right to sell a single pot brownie, every non-violent marijuana-related conviction must be thrown out.

For years, the rich, white and powerful have demonized marijuana and those who smoke it, eat it or dribble CBD oil in their tea. They labeled it a “gateway drug”; limited research into its medicinal uses; designed and implemented policies that over-criminalized its possession (88 percent of marijuana arrests between 2001 and 2010 were for possession, and marijuana represented 46 percent of all drug arrests in the United States); and disproportionately targeted black and brown people for arrest. Ronald Reagan fear mongered in 1980 that “marijuana — pot, grass, whatever you want to call it — is probably the most dangerous drug in the United States.” Now-former Attorney General Jeff Sessions said as recently as 2016 that “good people don't smoke marijuana.”

But these days, the rich white elite are planning to wildly capitalize on the psychoactive plant. (And I’m not just talking about former Republican House Speaker John Boehner, who declared himself“unalterably opposed” to legalization in 2011 only to join the board of a marijuana company in 2018.)

“If cannabis is ever passed in Texas, chances are good that grocery stores will be selling that too,” Whole Foods CEO, John Mackey saidduring a conversation hosted by The Texas Tribune recently.

Well, before that happens — before Amazon-owned Whole Foods and Trader Joe's and all manner of opulent, upscale grocers start selling pot brownies to their deep-pocketed patrons — every non-violent marijuana-related conviction should be expunged, and those still incarcerated for marijuana crimes should be immediately released. Before a single Wall Street-loving yacht owner makes another dollar off a demonized plant with long-known medicinal properties, every single person who was thrown into the criminal justice system for enjoying it should get their lives back as much as possible.

It’s the black, brown and Native American people who still suffer from arrests (despite decriminalization and even legalization) and arrest records tied to the possession of the very same product which this entitled gaggle of money grubbers are slated to make billions off of over the next 10 to 20 years.

And any kind of conviction in this land of backward laws can make it nearly impossible for a person to land a job, get an apartment, handle money, volunteer, vote or work in the legalized marijuana industry.

In the meantime, rich white people are raking it in.

Even universities are getting in on the action: Northern Michigan University, for example, offers a four-year degree in marijuana. “We’re providing a fast track to get into the industry,” Brandon Canfield, a chemistry professor at the school, said.

But for whom? Usually not those doing time for possession of marijuana. Here’s an idea, though: Offer free tuition at Northern Michigan University (and all universities with marijuana majors and minors) for those who have been savagely ripped from their families and friends and had their lives damaged by the criminal justice system simply because they were black, brown or Native and had pot on their person.

It can only help, given how white the entire industry is shaping up to be. “Legal marijuana is an overwhelmingly white industry whose promises on racial equity have been left unfulfilled,” Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, wrote in a piece for USA Today.

She added: “As case in point, people of color made up to 86 percent of marijuana arrests in New York in 2017. These figures stand in stark contrast to estimates suggesting that those who hold licenses today in this growing industry are roughly 99 percent white.”

You can see not dissimilar inequities play out among consumers, too. Here in Denver, Colorado, though recreational marijuana has been legal since 2012, it’s not uncommon to see black and Latinos and Natives hide their joints and edibles while white folks openly puff and pass.

The policy nexus of pot and people of color is now a popular Democratic talking point as we near 2020. Presidential candidates Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren and several of the other nine POTUS-hopefuls are calling for the legalization of marijuana and speak to the scourge of racism in policing when it comes to cannabis.

“The War on Drugs has not been a war on drugs, it’s been a war on people, and disproportionately people of color and low-income individuals,” Booker said this week.

And speaking on a radio show on Monday, Sanders said too many people have been unfairly ensnared by this country’s pot policies. “Too many lives are being destroyed. Hundreds of thousands of people get criminal records. You know why? Because they have smoked marijuana,” he said. “That’s insane.”

Insane, indeed — which is why it makes sense that, as Clarke put it, “those impacted should be given first-in-line access to licensing and job opportunities in this booming industry.”

One more suggestion: For every pot brownie or vegan cannabis cookie Whole Foods will inevitably sell, the mega company should vow to pay a portion of the legal fees to help free a person who is in a cage right now simply for having once had weed, the product they want to get in on. It’s the right thing to do.

Also, they should just lower their prices. Goodness knows they’ll be the most expensive option around because, let’s be honest here, they already are for everything else.
 

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Props to Illinois, I look forward to going back home and picking up a pack of left handers.

if they can climb out of the hole they're currently in, it should serve as a fine model for the rest of the country.
 

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I would love a fat joint right now, but I have to wait for a bunch of white Bible thumpers to die off.
 

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I would love a fat joint right now, but I have to wait for a bunch of white Bible thumpers to die off.
Why? I haven't smoked weed in over 10 years but still bet I could find some pretty quick if I wanted to. It's not like it's hard to pick out the people from work who smoke.
 

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Why? I haven't smoked weed in over 10 years but still bet I could find some pretty quick if I wanted to. It's not like it's hard to pick out the people from work who smoke.
So if it is that easy, why not legalize it?

I really don't get the negative of legalization other than it keeps dummies out of the criminal justice system. It is too bad for our prisons, which have now become business units.

In terms of real impact to you and I, the tax benefits are huge.

I still think there are a bunch of dipshits who worry about it to appease some subgroups. In particular, the religious morons.

If you think it is a gateway, you are a mother fucking stone cold retard.
 
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