Dak Watch Thread...

[p1_]

This shit just got a whole lot more interesting. Dak got a wake up call; he's not in the family portrait.

 

[Cujo]

What’s the basis for saying most OU fans don’t like Hurts?

Well, I wouldn't say I dislike him, I just think he will struggle without superior talent around him.

 

[P_T]

Yep, everyone wants shorter deals now because they want another bite at the apple on these massive signing bonuses. It's why Dak's deal isn't done.

If a contract is signed in 2019 and goes to 2024, is it a 4 or 5 year deal?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

If a contract is signed in 2019 and goes to 2024, is it a 4 or 5 year deal?

5 years, but if the guy has a year left on his deal it's really a 4 year deal.

 

[P_T]

I was looking at:

NFL Contracts

A real-time, sortable list of NFL contracts including total value, guaranteed money, and complete salary breakdowns.

www.spotrac.com

of the top 9 QB contracts, only 3 got (actual) 4 year deals: Wilson, Rogers, and Tannehill. The first two have rings and they're closer to the end of their careers than the beginning. Tannehill is "only" making $29.5 per...

Dak wants $38+ AND 4 years? Fuck him.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I was looking at:

NFL Contracts

A real-time, sortable list of NFL contracts including total value, guaranteed money, and complete salary breakdowns.

www.spotrac.com

of the top 9 QB contracts, only 3 got (actual) 4 year deals: Wilson, Rogers, and Tannehill. The first two have rings and they're closer to the end of their careers than the beginning. Tannehill is "only" making $29.5 per...

Dak wants $38+ AND 4 years? Fuck him.

Look at all the recent deals, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers, Wilson. All 4 year deals. And Dak basically wants to be paid right in that pack of QBs.

 

[1bigfan13]

Well, I wouldn't say I dislike him, I just think he will struggle without superior talent around him.

I just don't see the talent as an every down QB and passer at the NFL level.

Teams figured him out in the 2nd half of the season which is why you saw him holding the ball more down the stretch of the year. And most of his passing yards seemed to come off of broken plays where'd use his legs to make something happen on scramble drills. His overall numbers in the stat sheet looked fine but if you sat through the entire game you'd see that he was incredibly flawed and that he was essentially a one read QB.

I ran across one of those PFF stats the other day that said that on passing plays Jalen Hurts held the ball longer than all FBS QBs. I believe that information because it aligns with what I watched each week. A QB who was an incredibly slow decision maker.

 

[Smitty]

Look at all the recent deals, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers, Wilson. All 4 year deals. And Dak basically wants to be paid right in that pack of QBs.

Yeah but he's not really as good as those players.

Goff arguably.

 

[P_T]

Look at all the recent deals, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers, Wilson. All 4 year deals. And Dak basically wants to be paid right in that pack of QBs.

Wentz and Goff got 4 year extensions, Eagles and Rams got the benefits of 5 years.

 

[Simpleton]

Any time these guys do a big extension they drag their feet and take fucking forever thinking they're playing hardball and then when the deadline hits they ultimately cave.

They waited all the way up until about 5 days before the regular season before extending Elliott, they waited until basically the deadline for tagged players before extending Lawrence and they let Cooper actually hit free agency for about a day before extending him.

All at the top of the market, even though they're all structured to where we can get out of them relatively easily.

I'm sure they'll wait until a day or two before the deadline in July until they finally extend Prescott and it'll almost certainly be at the top of the market. They better just hope that Watson or Mahomes don't get extensions before then.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah but he's not really as good as those players.

Goff arguably.

Lol definitely better than Wentz

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Wentz and Goff got 4 year extensions, Eagles and Rams got the benefits of 5 years.

No offense but that's on the Cowboys for not doing the deal last offseason. It's a 4 year deal either way.

 

[NoDak]

Lol definitely better than Wentz

More durable, sure. But I think it's arguable when it comes right down to actual skills. Certainly not, 'definitely'.

 

[Simpleton]

I wouldn't trade Dak for Wentz or Goff honestly, even if Wentz was perfectly healthy I think it'd be a toss up.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

More durable, sure. But I think it's arguable when it comes right down to actual skills. Certainly not, 'definitely'.

Wentz is the better pure passer, but that injury history is nasty.
Might factor in Dak's 21 career rushing TDs just for the heck of it.
But Dak's definitely not in Rodgers' and Wilson's league...
Goff is the worst of the bunch, IMO.

 

[Smitty]

Lol definitely better than Wentz

He's not "definitely" better than Wentz.

"Lol"

 

[armadillooutlaw]

He's not "definitely" better than Wentz.

"Lol"

Take injuries away, Wentz is maybe an 8 as a passer and Dak is a 7. Dak has the extra element of being a red zone threat with his legs...
Both are good.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yeah but he's not really as good as those players.

Goff arguably.

I don't see much evidence that he isn't at least every bit as good as Goff and Wentz.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

I don't see much evidence that he isn't at least every bit as good as Goff and Wentz.

Goff fell off of a cliff last year, badly.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Take injuries away, Wentz is maybe an 8 as a passer and Dak is a 7. Dak has the extra element of being a red zone threat with his legs...
Both are good.

Wentz is massively overrated. (Wentz is also a threat to run btw)