Cowboys Sign Anthony Barr

[Genghis Khan]

The other thing that bothers me is that they clearly were ready to give Gregory 14/year and when he turned it down they just packed it in, re-signed Armstrong and gave Fowler a throwaway deal.

There were plenty of other options out there in that 14/year range but they refuse to consider any external FA's unless they're willing to take about 3-4 on a 1 year deal.

Supposedly they offered that money to Miller though.

 

[Simpleton]

Supposedly they offered that money to Miller though.

That's not a good faith offer, they knew damn good and well he wouldn't take that and if he did it'd be a massive underpay.

They aren't willing to pay fair market value for external FA's, someone like Haason Reddick for example who went for 15/year.

 

[Genghis Khan]

That's not a good faith offer, they knew damn good and well he wouldn't take that and if he did it'd be a massive underpay.

They aren't willing to pay fair market value for external FA's, someone like Haason Reddick for example who went for 15/year.

I think the Gregory money for Miller was a fair offer. I think to the contrary, the Buffalo offer was an overpay.

 

[Cotton]

I think the Gregory money for Miller was a fair offer. I think to the contrary, the Buffalo offer was an overpay.

I agree. He is 33 years old. 14 per seemed like it was about right for him.

 

[Simpleton]

When Haason Reddick is getting 15/year Miller should be getting 17ish.

You could argue it's negligible but I bet if we had offered Miller 4 years at 17/year it gets done, and we probably end up with the fiercest pass rush in the league.

 

[p1_]

I think the Gregory money for Miller was a fair offer. I think to the contrary, the Buffalo offer was an overpay.

does that mean you think the two are equal players?

 

[ravidubey]

I think the Gregory money for Miller was a fair offer. I think to the contrary, the Buffalo offer was an overpay.

It was an overpay, but guys like Miller who could make a difference the next season or two while Buffalo is competing for it all simply don’t exist on the open market.

I also think they were looking for a guy to create a stronger team culture — something alien to the Joneses

 

[Genghis Khan]

does that mean you think the two are equal players?

No.

 

[boozeman]

That's not a good faith offer, they knew damn good and well he wouldn't take that and if he did it'd be a massive underpay.

They aren't willing to pay fair market value for external FA's, someone like Haason Reddick for example who went for 15/year.

Apparently, you just don't understand the "honest offer" that is a Goof Son trademark.

 

[p1_]

No.

Only monetarily.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Only monetarily.

Not even that, it's just market perception. Miller is a much better player but has a lot more miles on him. So most teams are hesitant. Even if he's a 20 million dollar player today, is he in 23? Or 24, etc? Not to mention the odds of injury go up and up as he ages.

6 years 120 million at age 33 is an overpay, even if they can get out after 3 years.

 

[p1_]

Not even that, it's just market perception. Miller is a much better player but has a lot more miles on him. So most teams are hesitant. Even if he's a 20 million dollar player today, is he in 23? Or 24, etc? Not to mention the odds of injury go up and up as he ages.

6 years 120 million at age 33 is an overpay, even if they can get out after 3 years.

Agreed, I don’t think he’ll see the end of that contract.