2023 Season | Week 2 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Jets @ Cowboys | 9/17/2023

[NoDak]

Williams is literally a top 3 DT in the league, behind only Donald and Chris Jones (maybe), and Bass is a rookie UDFA in his second game.

The fact that our offense wasn't completely incapacitated is a huge accomplishment for Bass.

And for Fat Mike and the rest of the coaching staff. They have these guys prepared to play.

If this would have been a Jason Garrett lead team, we would have imploded.

 

[ravidubey]

Makes you wonder how frustrated Mike must have been the last few years watching Kellen have total control. Yes, he signed on the dotted line and all that, but it had to be tearing him up inside to have to sit and watch with very little say.

Fucking Jerry undermining big Mike from day one.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

See, this is what makes how they've run the team for so long that much more frustrating.

Contrary to popular belief, Jerry end Stephen aren't blind idiots that don't recognize or understand football concepts.

They know just as much as any intelligent fan does. That's why despite Jerry making comments about how uncomfortable he was around Parcells and saying it was like "walking on eggshells", he still wanted to extend his contract and was disappointed when he didn't come back for 2007.

And that's because for all his meddling, arrogance, and stubbornness, he recognizes when the team is playing well or when they're doing things better than before or when decisions that the HC is making are paying off.

And that's how McCarthy has earned more and more of his trust and is gaining more credibility with them with each passing season.

I say all that to say this -- Jerry and Stephen have known full well all this time when we've had poor coaching but they stuck with it anyway because they enjoyed the dynamic of the organization too much to want to make a change.

So what if we keep missing the playoffs? We get to make all the decisions with little to no pushback from our coaching staff!

I hope that Stephen is at least learning from both this experience and the shitty decade we spent with Garrett and realizes that coaching absolutely matters. And when the day comes that McCarthy is no longer the coach, he'll want to replace him with another good HC and not some pet cat or spineless dummy just happy to have the job like the majority of the coaches during their ownership.

Stephen was supposedly the one who stopped Jerry from extending Garrett after the 2018 season, so I think he has enough awareness to see what's plain as day. That situation with Garrett was just the perfect set of circumstances where Jerry had an emotional attachment, talked himself into Garrett getting better on the job, and then there was just enough of a tease (2014, 2016 and 2018) for Jerry to continue deluding himself.

But if the story is true that Stephen stopped the extension after 2018 it's pretty obvious he could see what was happening.

 

[Texas Ace]

Stephen was supposedly the one who stopped Jerry from extending Garrett after the 2018 season, so I think he has enough awareness to see what's plain as day. That situation with Garrett was just the perfect set of circumstances where Jerry had an emotional attachment, talked himself into Garrett getting better on the job, and then there was just enough of a tease (2014, 2016 and 2018) for Jerry to continue deluding himself.

But if the story is true that Stephen stopped the extension after 2018 it's pretty obvious he could see what was happening.

It was also Stephen who said publicly in the offseason of 2019 that the Cowboys needed to stop having letdown seasons after their playoff appearances.

So they noticed and were frustrated by Garrett's inability to sustain success just like we all did and were.

Like I said, these guys are not as blind and clueless as a lot of people think. They choose to operate the way that they do and that's what makes it worse.

Let's hope the worst of that is behind us now and that going forward we'll at least operate the way we are right now.

 

[p1_]

He was atoning for the bad angle he took on the 67 yard TD .

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Stephen was supposedly the one who stopped Jerry from extending Garrett after the 2018 season, so I think he has enough awareness to see what's plain as day. That situation with Garrett was just the perfect set of circumstances where Jerry had an emotional attachment, talked himself into Garrett getting better on the job, and then there was just enough of a tease (2014, 2016 and 2018) for Jerry to continue deluding himself.

But if the story is true that Stephen stopped the extension after 2018 it's pretty obvious he could see what was happening.

Yeah, I think Stephen has known for a while. But it's still Daddy's company. Only so much he can do.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[p1_]

It was also Stephen who said publicly in the offseason of 2019 that the Cowboys needed to stop having letdown seasons after their playoff appearances.



Like I said, these guys are not as blind and clueless as a lot of people think. They choose to operate the way that they do and that's what makes it worse.

Let's hope the worst of that is behind us now and that going forward we'll at least operate the way we are right now.

Firing Garrett was a fantastic start. Three years on, here we are with consecutive winning seasons and the best team since Parcells or maybe Jimmah.

 

[Genghis Khan]

They've always sucked but this is especially bad.

 

[p1_]

What are you trying to say here? Propping Gallibust.

 

[Simpleton]

It was also Stephen who said publicly in the offseason of 2019 that the Cowboys needed to stop having letdown seasons after their playoff appearances.



Like I said, these guys are not as blind and clueless as a lot of people think. They choose to operate the way that they do and that's what makes it worse.

Let's hope the worst of that is behind us now and that going forward we'll at least operate the way we are right now.

Yea, while I don't think Stephen can sit down and evaluate tape of draft prospects or anything I think he at least has the common sense to know what a professional football operation is supposed to look like.

He still has his faults (cap management, free agency, etc.) but the way this team has been run since about 2013 or 2014 is light years better than Jerry's glory days of about 1995-2002 and a few years post-Parcells. That 2013/14 timeframe was an inflection point to me with McClay becoming empowered, the draft process being overhauled, Stephen overruling Jerry on Manziel and so forth.

 

[boozeman]

What are you trying to say here? Propping Gallibust.

This is the best he has ever played week to week.

 

[boozeman]

 

[p1_]

Hasn’t he done that like twice already?

 

[Simpleton]

Hasn’t he done that like twice already?

He did it last week on a Pollard fumble and at least once last year. I would hope they've been having extension discussions with him the same way they've had with Steele, Lamb, Hooker and so forth.

 

[p1_]

He did it last week on a Pollard fumble and at least once last year. I would hope they've been having extension discussions with him the same way they've had with Steele, Lamb, Hooker and so forth.

Hasnt he had a pro bowl , alternate maybe?