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The Mazi Smith Thread...
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Genghis Khan
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It might be neither. If a guy isn't a hard worker or isn't highly motivated, all the talent in the world won't help him.
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He was an explosive athlete at 330 pounds. But his snap anticipation sucks. I don't know if some retard thought losing 30 pounds would improve his snap anticipation but that's retarded. Now we have a 290 pound athlete with shitty snap anticipation. You've only made him worse physically. Again, the plan on him sucks if this is the plan. He needed his technique fixed, not his body. And we jacked up the one thing he had going for him.
I have to put this on Quinn and our Dline coach. Just awful plan with the guy. I've thought a lot about it and I can't imagine that Mazi one day was just like I'm going to lose 30 pounds and no one will care. He would have done that in college if that's what he wanted to do on his own.
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I mean the guy obviously worked his ass off in the weight room. So his work ethic when it comes to football could be shit but that doesn't explain the insane loss of weight. Someone had to sign off on it.
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Said it before, but if only we had actual reporters who did some investigating instead of toadies who just repeat a few lines from press conferences and wrote happy stories.
My best guess is, he was so bad at NT that they tried to salvage him by making him a nickel rusher or something. They moved him to playing next to Hankins, rather than in place of him, even late in training camp.
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I don't think anyone said that. They simply said he lost 30+ pounds. From there it has been mostly speculation. I've seen reported that the team had weigh ins for him and he always made weight (was never fined) but no actual statement about what the weights were supposed to be.
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I just don't know why a guy who was 330 pounds in college, when he had all the freedom in the world got to the NFL and suddenly goes, I'm going to drop 30-40 pounds. Just makes no sense in my head. And the team watching him do it was just like "ok, whatever you think"
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Wasn't there a discussion years back about rookies hitting a wall where different things would happen? Weight loss, not showing up in games as much. When it's your job to play football 24/7, instead of being a "student-athlete" bigger rookies would drop weight because of better nutrition, strength coaches, etc. and then get built back up with better weight in the offseason.
Not saying that's what happened here, but I think it's a possibility. But when you're paid to be a fat run stuffer, I don't know why you would do it on purpose. And as C-Lab said, it would be nice if someone would at least ask the question.
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I think it was Broaddus and I'm honestly skeptical about that narrative.
Not that he lost weight but that he lost significant weight and was instructed by the team to do so.
We've talking about it here like it's fact and it's far from proven.
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Exactly. Broaddus said he asked someone in the org and they told him Mazi was 293. I never saw anything about the team asking him to do it... that was just speculation based on the fact that the team monitors the players' weights every week.
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You don't think he has lost significant weight? I think that's a fact. Hell just look at him.
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He is talking about us saying that the cowboys made him lose the weight. That hasnt been proven.
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How has no reporter just asked? I'm still so confused. Like if I were a reporter it would be the first question I would ask the guy.
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I think he's lost some weight but I'm not sure if it's as much as 30 pounds and it's unclear why.
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Yeah that's pure speculation. No one has an actual answer to the question yet which seems like a real head scratcher. Obviously the organization was aware of it. It's just a question if it was something they were on board with or if the guy just went rogue and decided to lose weight. I'm skeptical of a guy losing 30-40 pounds in defiance of the team. But it's possible. And if that's the case then he really is a total bust.
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If that turd can't get off the ball quicker than he does, it won't matter what he weighs. I don't watch much college football so I loved that they went with a big guy for the middle BUT no way in hell I would have drafted him if he was that slow off the ball in college too, which I assume was the case. Offensive linemen are going to continue to put him on skates if they're on him before he even gets his ass out of his stance