2021 Cowboys Draft Chatter Thread...

[Cowboysrock55]

Brugler had him going at #17 in his last mock before the draft.

Yeah he wasn't top 10 but I saw plenty of teens projections. Hell I think he was far better than the corner the Falcons took in the first.

 

[Cujo]

A CB at pick 10 in this draft would just as good as a CB at 20.

I want to see Rousseau's combine numbers and conditioning.

I don't ever want another cb or rb in the first round.

 

[1bigfan13]

I Agee. Not sure I love Collins as much as some though.

Same here. I certainly wouldn't reach for him in the top half of the draft. I believe most projections have him going late 1st round.

I wouldn't even use the #10 pick on Parsons. I think we'd be fine with a guys like Moses or Ossai in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think having to rely on a scrub like Jaylon Smith has exaggerated the need for a stud LB. Yes we need an upgrade at LB but I don't think we necessarily need to use high draft picks to replace him. The bar is set low, IMO. If they can find a LB who generally understands gap responsibility and who actually sheds blocks and fights through the trash on occasion, I'd consider that an upgrade.

 

[1bigfan13]

I know I'm not ready for it.

It's like they didn't pay attention to the 2020 season.

The secondary was nothing to write home about but the run defense was a flat out embarrassment. The defense allowed approximately 160 rushing yards per game and over 5 yards per carry yet these knuckleheads are worried about adding CBs.

 

[ravidubey]

I wouldn't even use the #10 pick on Parsons.

This would be a solid pick, though, talent wise, and also have the effect of booting Smith off the starting defense.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It's like they didn't pay attention to the 2020 season.

The secondary was nothing to write home about but the run defense was a flat out embarrassment. The defense allowed approximately 160 rushing yards per game and over 5 yards per carry yet these knuckleheads are worried about adding CBs.

I mean if you can shut down the run entirely it makes things so much easier on defense.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think I'm all on the Barmore train right now. 6'5" 310 pounds and can rush the passer and stuff the run. We shall see but based on his finish to the season and age I don't think 10 will be too rich for him.

 

[Rev]

I think I'm all on the Barmore train right now. 6'5" 310 pounds and can rush the passer and stuff the run. We shall see but based on his finish to the season and age I don't think 10 will be too rich for him.

Welcome aboard the Draft Barmore Train.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Welcome aboard the Draft Barmore Train.

I think sometimes I get sucked in by late season success a little. But that's not always a bad thing. Big time play in some big time games just shows you how good it could get. 8 sacks from a DT who looks like he can do it all.

 

[boozeman]

I think sometimes I get sucked in by late season success a little. But that's not always a bad thing. Big time play in some big time games just shows you how good it could get. 8 sacks from a DT who looks like he can do it all.

I am not going to get too excited about him.

I will be honest, the most I watched him was in the CFB playoffs. And he looked pretty good.

But that was a small sample size.

That is going to be the hard part about evaluating this draft class.

With so may opt outs, cancelled games etc., if I have a top 10 pick, I want to be certain about the player.

 

[ravidubey]

I think I'm all on the Barmore train right now. 6'5" 310 pounds and can rush the passer and stuff the run. We shall see but based on his finish to the season and age I don't think 10 will be too rich for him.

So much better than taking a fricking CB.

If we're going to reach, then why not reach for production and power inside. He's got issues against the run (sometimes gets blasted out of the picture vs double teams), but maybe that's because of how Bama used him. Beggars can't be choosers I guess.

 

[bbgun]

He's got issues against the run

That's okay. That's our strength.

 

[boozeman]

So much better than taking a fricking CB.

If we're going to reach, then why not reach for production and power inside. He's got issues against the run, but maybe that's because of how Bama used him. Beggars can't be choosers I guess.

The whole thing about the DT position is what Quinn requires.

Red Bryant was an unheralded inside presence during the Legion of Doom's hey day. I wonder if that is what he is targeting.

If so, that could be Barmore. But just because he is the best DT in this draft is no reason to take him at 10.

 

[ravidubey]

That's okay. That's our strength.

I still want Rousseau. Just feel like he could be special while Barmore might just be solid.

 

[boozeman]

I still want Rousseau. Just feel like he could be special while Barmore might just be solid.

I am not a big fan of his. Not that he is bad, just that he is not "top 10" worthy to me.

He is definitely a guy I would have on a trade down short list.

 

[ravidubey]

If so, that could be Barmore. But just because he is the best DT in this draft is no reason to take him at 10.

Agree totally. But he's still better than taking a CB.

Really, really want to see Rousseau's combine weight, performance, and overall physical shape.

 

[ravidubey]

Who defensively besides Rousseau and Parsons is worth the top ten at this point?

That's why I say go BPA at 10 and chase defense the rest of the draft.

No one is going to trade, short of a star QB falling.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I am not going to get too excited about him.

I will be honest, the most I watched him was in the CFB playoffs. And he looked pretty good.

But that was a small sample size.

That is going to be the hard part about evaluating this draft class.

With so may opt outs, cancelled games etc., if I have a top 10 pick, I want to be certain about the player.

It is a hard year to evaluate. Hell you have a guy like Daviyon Nixon who I love. But he only played like 8 games this year. So how do you rate his 5.5 sacks in 8 games compared to Barmore who has 8 sacks in 13 games. You not only have opt outs but guys who have played vastly different amount of games this season.

Either way the more I saw Barmore the more I liked. He just looks like the complete package to me. He has really developed into what looks like the ideal DT to me.

And I like Rousseau a lot but it's a lot of projection. I don't think he will survive in the NFL as a 265 pound DE. So I'm projecting that the guy can get up closer to 285 and be more of a David Irving type Dlineman. He doesn't have the explosion to be a great 265 pound DE.

 

[boozeman]

Who defensively besides Rousseau and Parsons is worth the top ten at this point?

That's why I say go BPA at 10 and chase defense the rest of the draft.

No one is going to trade, short of a star QB falling.

I am just hoping there are at least one or two guys we are not talking about right now that just zoom up.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I am just hoping there are at least one or two guys we are not talking about right now that just zoom up.

There will be. And everyone will think it's from the combine or something like that. But frankly a lot of it is just catching up on the 2020 evaluations.