President Trump Thread...

[Sheik]

Funny enough the only racist comment I’ve ever had uttered to me was by DeShawn Stevenson(Future NBA player). In high school he called me a “white cracker mother fucker” while I was waiting outside the locker room before football practice. A team mate of mine called him and a few of the basketball players “pussies for not playing a real mans sport” and he thought it was me who said it.

I’ve worked for tons of black people over the years, every single one was nicest most welcoming people you’d ever want to meet.

The only angry black people seem to be prominent and rich blacks on TV who profit by making everything about race. Disagree, racist! Critique, racist! Point out statistics that don’t make their argument, racist!

They’re making it so mainstream to hate whites right now. And that’s okay, with all my privilege, they can’t bring me down!

 

[L.T. Fan]

So growing up, you knew no old white people who were kind of racist? That's what you're tell me? I call bullshit. But hey, maybe California is a generation better than Texas. Maybe so...

I haven’t stated whether I knew any old white people who were racist. I said you were using the same stereotyping to generalize about racist as the methodology the black race gets inflamed about. You are lumping all old white people together just because you know of some.

 

[Sheik]

I haven’t stated whether I knew any old white people who were racist. I said you were using the same stereotyping to generalize about racist as the methodology the black race gets inflamed about. You are lumping all old white people together just because you know of some.

Calm down, Grand Wizard. You’ve been sniffed out.

 

[yimyammer]

typical

lol, damn she's quick

 

[Cotton]

lol, damn she's quick

She fits Trump perfectly. She flat out called his first question absurd which it absolutely was.

 

[Sheik]

She fits Trump perfectly. She flat out called his first question absurd which it absolutely was.

I’d be fired the first day.

I don’t want to keep harping on the Paul Begala opinion piece written as fact, like he’s privy to classified materials and shit, but I would stand at the podium, take a printed page of his piece, and announce that I’d be wiping my ass with it shortly after the press conference.

She’s sharp, no doubt, but every press secretary he’s had has been way too
easy on these scumbags looking for gotcha opportunities every time they ask a question or make a veiled statement in the form of a question.

 

[Cujo]

I’d be fired the first day.

I don’t want to keep harping on the Paul Begala opinion piece written as fact, like he’s privy to classified materials and shit, but I would stand at the podium, take a printed page of his piece, and announce that I’d be wiping my ass with it shortly after the press conference.

She’s sharp, no doubt, but every press secretary he’s had has been way too
easy on these scumbags looking for gotcha opportunities every time they ask a question or make a veiled statement in the form of a question.

I would catch an assault case.

 

[yimyammer]

Funny enough the only racist comment I’ve ever had uttered to me was by DeShawn Stevenson(Future NBA player). In high school he called me a “white cracker mother fucker” while I was waiting outside the locker room before football practice. A team mate of mine called him and a few of the basketball players “pussies for not playing a real mans sport” and he thought it was me who said it.

I’ve worked for tons of black people over the years, every single one was nicest most welcoming people you’d ever want to meet.

The only angry black people seem to be prominent and rich blacks on TV who profit by making everything about race. Disagree, racist! Critique, racist! Point out statistics that don’t make their argument, racist!

They’re making it so mainstream to hate whites right now. And that’s okay, with all my privilege, they can’t bring me down!

Good stuff, I can commiserate

here's a long trip down memory lane so TLDR warning:

I grew up in Dallas, Tx and was fortunate to have a grown up in a super diverse neighborhood (1/4 mile from the Cowboys old practice fields) and my friends were from the Middle East, Vietnam (the Pham brothers were small but tough as nails and played football with us as RBs and we all marveled at how resilient they were, they never quit and brought every ounce of strength they had to the table, we all loved and respected those guys), Toby Sheik was from India and he had a sister who we were all in love with because she was beautiful and had hair down to her ankles. I was friends with Mel Renfros son in 1st grade and remember how sad I was when he had to move (I guess because his dad was traded or something). The Romo brothers were an awesome hispanic family whose mom came to every soccer game with a cowbell and I can still hear her voice rooting us on.

There was another guy named Sham Baggot (I cant remember how to spell his name) but he was from the Middle East somewhere and we became close friends. He was so mature for his age. He wanted to be the next Lou Ferrigno and was already lifting weights and dieting in elementary school, he was ripped and huge (at least to my young eyes). The funniest thing he loved to do is mess up his afro, turn on a lamp with green light bulb he had put inside and then flex while trying to impersonate The Hulk, it was a trip, he looked something like this:



Unfortunately he moved away and I never saw him again, I sure would love to run into him & catch up

Then there was Kynice, a black girl who decided I was her boyfriend in 1st grade and came by my house most mornings to walk with me to elementary school ( I was kind of afraid to say no, she was pretty big and tough..lol. I can still see her getting in a fight with some girl in Jr High that was so intense she ended up having her top ripped off and she was still swinging with nothing but jeans and her bra).

The black brothers I grew up with were cool as shit and I looked up to them. They were funny, walked cool, talked cool, dressed cool, even had a cool hand shake and were nothing but nice to me (a goofy, insecure little gringo). One of the guys, Sammy Van Dyke, was HUGE even in first grade. He ended up playing running back for Arkansas U. I thought for sure he would go pro. Really great guy, last time we talked a few years ago, I told him how much I loved him and the other guys and especially their families and the black mamas who just exuded love and joy and made me feel so welcome as a shy, insecure kid. He was a trip, not even that great of a soccer player but was so big, everyone was afraid of him. He played fullback and would dribble the ball all the way from our goal to the other teams goal with kids flying off him all the way until he usually scored all on his own. It looked something like this:


We were talking one time and he told me how the girl he dated in high school (who was white) parents and her brother flipped out and called him the N word and ultimately broke them up. I was stunned when he told me this. He's such a great guy, gentile giant if you will, yet apparently he went through hell with that family. I was really sad to hear as I was oblivious while it was happening as I wouldn't dare ever say anything like that to him or any of those guys I grew up with. Not because I was afraid to or wanted to but because I care about those guys and would never want to hurt them.

I reconnected with him a few years ago and we were trying to coordinate schedules to go watch his sons football game when I got a call he was found dead sitting in his chair at home found by his mother (after his playing career ended, he got over 300lbs and I didn't recognize him when I saw him, I guess his heart gave out). I still kick myself for not taking the time to go see his son and hang out with him when I had the chance. His dad was a big guy that played running back too. HIs parents always came across so regal standing on the sidelines during our soccer games and I was in awe of them. They reminded me of Eddie Murphys characters parents from Coming to America:



I could list a dozen more guys like this that are just awesome people.

I can remember sitting in the library of my elementary school reading a book about MLK while trying to hide my tears when I discovered he had been assassinated. I can still remember thinking, what the hell is wrong with these people, they must not have ever had friends that were black, because if they had, there is no way they could be racist.

I'm grateful for desegregation and growing up with the wide range of ethnicities, colors and characters I did. I wonder if I would have developed ignorant, racist attitudes had I not. I'm glad I'll never know

I've noticed that as we progress in life, what separates us from each other more than anything else, isn't racism, its economics because as I went to college then got a job, the less diverse things were. I don't believe it was overt or due to racism per se, It was simply a lack of opportunity due to financial limitations and thats a shame because like when we were kids, I believe if we still hung out, worked together, played together, inter-married, etc, etc we wouldn't have most of the issues we have today (imho).

but alas.....

 

[Sheik]

One more point on this “Trump knew Russia had bounties on US Soldiers and did nothing!!!!!” bullshit.

I’m convinced that the only way the left will let Russiagate die is if Trump nukes Russia.

I say do it. And paint “From Democrats” on the side of the bomb.

 

[Cujo]

Good stuff, I can commiserate

here's a long trip down memory lane so TLDR warning:

I grew up in Dallas, Tx and was fortunate to have a grown up in a super diverse neighborhood (1/4 mile from the Cowboys old practice fields) and my friends were from the Middle East, Vietnam (the Pham brothers were that were small but tough as nails and played football with us as RBs and we all marveled at how resilient they were, they never quit and brought ever ounce of strength they had to the table, we all loved and respected those guys), Toby Sheik was from India and he had a sister who we were all in love with because she was beautiful and had hair down to her ankles. I was friends with Mel Renfros son in 1st grade and remember how sad I was when he had to move (I guess because his dad was traded or something). The Romo brothers were an awesome hispanic family whose mom came to every soccer game with a cowbell and I can still hear her voice rooting us on.

There was another guy named Sham Baggot (I cant remember how to spell his name) but he was from the Middle East somewhere and we became close friends. He was so mature for his age. He wanted to be the next Lou Ferrigno and was already lifting weights and dieting in elementary school, he was ripped and huge (at least to my young eyes). The funniest thing he loved to do is mess up his afro, turn on a lamp with green light bulb he had put inside and then flex while trying to impersonate The Hulk, it was a trip, he looked something like this:

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Unfortunately he moved away and I never saw him again, I sure would love to run into him & catch up

Then there was Kynice, a black girl who decided I was her boyfriend in 1st grade and came by my house most mornings to walk with me to elementary school ( I was kind of afraid to say no, she was pretty big and tough..lol. I can still see her getting in a fight with some girl in Jr High that was so intense she ended up having her top ripped off and she was still swinging with nothing but jeans and her bra).

The black brothers I grew up with were cool as shit and I looked up to them. They were funny, walked cool, talked cool, dressed cool, even had a cool hand shake and were nothing but nice to me (a goofy, insecure little gringo). One of the guys, Sammy Van Dyke, was HUGE even in first grade. He ended up playing running back for Arkansas U. I thought for sure he would go pro. Really great guy, last time we talked a few years ago, I told him how much I loved him and the other guys and especially their families and the black mamas who just exuded love and joy and made me feel so welcome as a shy, insecure kid. He was a trip, not even that great of a soccer player but was so big, everyone was afraid of him. He played fullback and would dribble the ball all the way from our goal to the other teams goal with kids flying off him all the way until he usually scored all on his own. It looked something like this:


We were talking one time and he told me how the girl he dated in high school (who was white) parents and her brother flipped out and called him the N word and ultimately broke them up. I was stunned when he told me this. He's such a great guy, gentile giant if you will, yet apparently he went through hell with that family. I was really sad to hear as I was oblivious while it was happening as I wouldn't dare ever say anything like that to him or any of those guys I grew up with. Not because I was afraid to or wanted to but because I care about those guys and would never want to hurt them.

I reconnected with him a few years ago and we were trying to coordinate schedules to go watch his sons football game when I got a call he was found dead sitting in his chair at home found by his mother (after his playing career ended, he got over 300lbs and I didn't recognize him when I saw him, I guess his heart gave out). I still kick myself for not taking the time to go see his son and hang out with him when I had the chance. His dad was a big guy that played running back too. HIs parents always came across so regal standing on the sidelines during our soccer games and I was in awe of them. They reminded me of Eddie Murphys characters parents from Coming to America:

View attachment 690680

I could list a dozen more guys like this that are just awesome people.

I can remember sitting in the library of my elementary school reading a book about MLK while trying to hide my tears when I discovered he had been assassinated. I can still remember thinking, what the hell is wrong with these people, they must not have ever had friends that were black, because if they had, there is no way they could be racist.

I'm grateful for desegregation and growing up with the wide range of ethnicities, colors and characters I did. I wonder if I would have developed ignorant, racist attitudes had I not. I'm glad I'll never know

I've noticed that as we progress in life, what separates us from each other more than anything else, isn't racism, its economics because as I went to college then got a job, the less diverse things were. I don't believe it was overt or due to racism per se, It was simply a lack of opportunity due to financial limitations and thats a shame because like when we were kids, I believe if we still hung out, worked together, played together, inter-married, etc, etc we wouldn't have most of the issues we have today (imho).

but alas.....

Thank you for sharing that, bro.

 

[boozeman]

Let's be real. This is a forum of complete whites unless a black poster decides to participate. #RIP1bigfan

I can say, we have had black members, gay members, hispanic members, white guys married to hispanics, etc.

Frankly, these are cool stories, but they are kind of hollow.

This is not easy to work through.

We have done the bare minimum, mainly because we have been tight.

But there are a ton of guys who have for whatever reason either bailed or took a time out.

It is not a mystery why.

 

[jsmith6919]

I can honestly say I don't give a fuck what your skin color or sexual orientation is, my litmus test is belief in the 2nd Amendment

 

[Sheik]

Let's be real. This is a forum of complete whites unless a black poster decides to participate. #RIP1bigfan

I can say, we have had black members, gay members, hispanic members, white guys married to hispanics, etc.

Frankly, these are cool stories, but they are kind of hollow.

This is not easy to work through.

We have done the bare minimum, mainly because we have been tight.

But there are a ton of guys who have for whatever reason either bailed or took a time out.

It is not a mystery why.

What happened with 1BigFan13? Unless it’s private.

If it’s something I may have said, I’d be happy to apologize and talk to him about it.

Your post has a lot of truth to it.

 

[yimyammer]

Let's be real. This is a forum of complete whites unless a black poster decides to participate. #RIP1bigfan

I can say, we have had black members, gay members, hispanic members, white guys married to hispanics, etc.

Frankly, these are cool stories, but they are kind of hollow.

This is not easy to work through.

We have done the bare minimum, mainly because we have been tight.

But there are a ton of guys who have for whatever reason either bailed or took a time out.

It is not a mystery why.

wut?

splain Lucy, por favor!

 

[lostxn]

I haven’t stated whether I knew any old white people who were racist. I said you were using the same stereotyping to generalize about racist as the methodology the black race gets inflamed about. You are lumping all old white people together just because you know of some.

No I'm not. That's what you say I'm doing because apparently you want to paint me as some sort of self hating white person. Not true. Some of my best friends are white. Hell, I even married one...

 

[Cotton]

Let's be real. This is a forum of complete whites unless a black poster decides to participate. #RIP1bigfan

I can say, we have had black members, gay members, hispanic members, white guys married to hispanics, etc.

Frankly, these are cool stories, but they are kind of hollow.

This is not easy to work through.

We have done the bare minimum, mainly because we have been tight.

But there are a ton of guys who have for whatever reason either bailed or took a time out.

It is not a mystery why.

Are you saying we need sensitivity training here at the DCC? More inclusive threads? What are you suggesting? This is a sports first board. The peripheral threads are completely transparent. Members can weigh in or avoid them completely. That's entirely up to each individual member.

 

[lostxn]

Yep.

You just said you never saw racist white people then you turn around and say you've seen racist people of every creed. Make up your mind.

Anyway, I certainly haven't seen anything like what Sheik mentioned happened in LA. More along the lines of telling racist jokes, saying things about race mixing, people having super-short fuses with people of other races (seen that between nearly every race), people getting pre-judged. Generally you hear this shit when people think they are around like-minded people. Maybe I just look like a racist and don't realize it...must be all the Nazi tatoos...

 

[Smitty]

I’m open to any perspective that a black or other minority poster may want to offer. I’m just not prepared to let them dictate the tenor of the argument by insinuating that my opinions are racist like it would in the main stream media.

Maybe they don’t like to play on an even playing field and so have absconded.

 

[Cotton]

You just said you never saw racist white people then you turn around and say you've seen racist people of every creed. Make up your mind.

Anyway, I certainly haven't seen anything like what Sheik mentioned happened in LA. More along the lines of telling racist jokes, saying things about race mixing, people having super-short fuses with people of other races (seen that between nearly every race), people getting pre-judged. Generally you hear this shit when people think they are around like-minded people. Maybe I just look like a racist and don't realize it...must be all the Nazi tatoos...

I have never seen the type of racism that Sheik is talking about ever in real day to day life. Now, in videos and from other accounts I have seen racism of every skin color. Hopefully, that's more clear.

 

[lostxn]

Let's be real. This is a forum of complete whites unless a black poster decides to participate. #RIP1bigfan

I can say, we have had black members, gay members, hispanic members, white guys married to hispanics, etc.

Frankly, these are cool stories, but they are kind of hollow.

This is not easy to work through.

We have done the bare minimum, mainly because we have been tight.

But there are a ton of guys who have for whatever reason either bailed or took a time out.

It is not a mystery why.

Angrymesscan is still around, no?