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Genghis Khan

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Enjoy it while you can because that's a really good team and unless they fall apart, they'll be in the 12 team playoffs.

Speaking of which, it really is mind-boggling that college football just barely implemented a playoff system like this.

I can sit here and present a number of reasons why this conscious choice by the NCAA was so strange and idiotic, but the first one that comes to mind was basically holding teams to the absurd standard of having to go undefeated in order to have a shot.

I'm so glad teams are no longer having their seasons ruined by one singular loss.

It baffled me since forever.
 

Genghis Khan

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Really? I'm not. That's what made college football great. Every week really did matter, at least for most teams. Now these early losses barely matter.

I feel the opposite, it's one of things that held me back from enjoying it more. 1 tough loss and your season is over? Absurd.

The big name bowls were all well and good, but nobody cared about the weed Wacker bowl or whatever.

At least now it's more or less settled on the field rather than some dipshit journalist or computer program or whatever.
 

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I feel the opposite, it's one of things that held me back from enjoying it more. 1 tough loss and your season is over? Absurd.

The big name bowls were all well and good, but nobody cared about the weed Wacker bowl or whatever.

At least now it's more or less settled on the field rather than some dipshit journalist or computer program or whatever.
It is settled on the field, but not until the tournament starts in December or whenever. And now all the usual big names will be in there whether they deserve it or not. We know they'll find a way to rank the big brands ahead of the non-brands whether they deserve it or not.

I'm actually glad they expanded the playoff, it's just that I think 12 is way too many. No way is the 12th ranked (or the non-Big Four or whatever) team ever going to truly be the best team in the league and have a chance of winning the playoffs.
 

Texas Ace

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Really? I'm not. That's what made college football great. Every week really did matter, at least for most teams. Now these early losses barely matter.
I don't agree with that at all and I think the whole argument of this making every week count is greatly exaggerated and has always been flawed.

We're all sports fans here, right?

What loss affects you the most? Football losses, right? It's not baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.

Think of how we've all felt on Sunday night or Monday morning after a loss when our fandom for the Cowboys has been at its highest.

I'm sure you felt physically ill like the rest of us did after the 2005 Santana Moss game on MNF. And that was just the second game of that season.

And why was that? Because we know how much each game matters and each loss has the potential to be the difference in getting into the playoffs or not.

One game can be the difference in winning your division or not, hosting a playoff game or going on the road, etc.

The NFL has shown us time and time again that there's already enough consequences that come with losing games in the NFL because they play so few of them compared to the other sports.

There's no need for one loss to cost you everything for the games to matters more. They already matter enough and the losses are already significantly consequential to where I've never bought that argument from traditional college football fans that the playoffs somehow diminishes the college regular season.
 

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I'm not saying carrying the ball 31 times against Hawaii is going to destroy him. But it's just unnecessary. Especially for a Boise State team that probably want to go far this season. They only have one loss and it was a close game to Oregon.

Obviously I think they are trying to get the kid records. But maybe save the carries a little so he can break NFL records instead.
The game was close going into the 4th, they've literally sat him for entire second halves this year so I think it they're very aware of the need to rest him.

He's only on pace for about 250 carries, which is only about 20/game, which I don't think is especially high.
 

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I'm actually glad they expanded the playoff, it's just that I think 12 is way too many. No way is the 12th ranked (or the non-Big Four or whatever) team ever going to truly be the best team in the league and have a chance of winning the playoffs.
I think it's too soon to say that.

I get that the discrepancy between the 12th and 1st team in college football is wider than it is in the NFL, but I still believe it's way too early to say that 10, 11th, or 12th team can't make a run.

We need a good sample size before we can truly determine that. I think after 4 years of this, we'll have a much better idea of what those odds look like for the entire field.
 

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I don't agree with that at all and I think the whole argument of this making every week count is greatly exaggerated and has always been flawed.

We're all sports fans here, right?

What loss affects you the most? Football losses, right? It's not baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.

Think of how we've all felt on Sunday night or Monday morning after a loss when our fandom for the Cowboys has been at its highest.

I'm sure you felt physically ill like the rest of us did after the 2005 Santana Moss game on MNF. And that was just the second game of that season.

And why was that? Because we know how much each game matters and each loss has the potential to be the difference in getting into the playoffs or not.

One game can be the difference in winning your division or not, hosting a playoff game or going on the road, etc.

The NFL has shown us time and time again that there's already enough consequences that come with losing games in the NFL because they play so few of them compared to the other sports.

There's no need for one loss to cost you everything for the games to matters more. They already matter enough and the losses are already significantly consequential to where I've never bought that argument from traditional college football fans that the playoffs somehow diminishes the college regular season.
But college isn't the NFL. Ohio State is going to tear through their schedule and make it and that loss yesterday won't even matter.

And I'm not saying it should end their season. It wouldn't have in the old system, either. But it at least would have made the game mean more than it does now.
 

Texas Ace

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It baffled me since forever.
I've never understood what the line of thinking was behind some of those decisions the NCAA made towards college football.

As dumb as the lack of playoff one was, I think what was even worse was that for so long they intentionally made it to where two undefeated teams could not play each other in the national championship game.

I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this might have been the single dumbest decision in the history of team sports -- let's INTENTIONALLY make it to where the two best teams in the sport CAN'T play each other in the championship game.

The entire point of a championship game is so that the two best teams in that respective sport face each other in order to determine who is truly the best and yet the NCAA was purposely avoiding this exact scenario.

I can't think of another decision by a sports governing body that was more mind-boggling than that.
 

Texas Ace

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But college isn't the NFL. Ohio State is going to tear through their schedule and make it and that loss yesterday won't even matter.

And I'm not saying it should end their season. It wouldn't have in the old system, either. But it at least would have made the game mean more than it does now.
That's a fair point and that's why I think that now that there is a 12 team playoff system, teams should be punished (for lack of a better term) for scheduling these FCS schools, especially when it's more than one.

It's for this reason that I never understood why Alabama got the benefit of the doubt so often and then attributing that to their tough SEC schedule.

Alabama has no damn business playing multiple games on their schedule vs FCS schools and yet there they were doing it every single season.

It's BS -- and now that we have a playoff, P5 schools need to be held to a higher standard from a scheduling standpoint.
 

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That's a fair point and that's why I think that now that there is a 12 team playoff system, teams should be punished (for lack of a better term) for scheduling these FCS schools, especially when it's more than one.

It's for this reason that I never understood why Alabama got the benefit of the doubt so often and then attributing that to their tough SEC schedule.

Alabama has no damn business playing multiple games on their schedule vs FCS schools and yet there they were doing it every single season.

It's BS -- and now that we have a playoff, P5 schools need to be held to a higher standard from a scheduling standpoint.
All true, but the way things are going, they may go full NFL with a 32 or something team league and not play those games anymore.

It's basically just another professional league now.

God I hate what has happened to college football. :sad
 

Genghis Khan

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I'm actually glad they expanded the playoff, it's just that I think 12 is way too many. No way is the 12th ranked (or the non-Big Four or whatever) team ever going to truly be the best team in the league and have a chance of winning the playoffs.

We'll see. I'm not so sure that's true. The good part is they'll be able to prove it.

I think 12 is a good number. 4 was definitely too little.
 

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I don't agree with that at all and I think the whole argument of this making every week count is greatly exaggerated and has always been flawed.

We're all sports fans here, right?

What loss affects you the most? Football losses, right? It's not baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.

Think of how we've all felt on Sunday night or Monday morning after a loss when our fandom for the Cowboys has been at its highest.

I'm sure you felt physically ill like the rest of us did after the 2005 Santana Moss game on MNF. And that was just the second game of that season.

And why was that? Because we know how much each game matters and each loss has the potential to be the difference in getting into the playoffs or not.

One game can be the difference in winning your division or not, hosting a playoff game or going on the road, etc.

The NFL has shown us time and time again that there's already enough consequences that come with losing games in the NFL because they play so few of them compared to the other sports.

There's no need for one loss to cost you everything for the games to matters more. They already matter enough and the losses are already significantly consequential to where I've never bought that argument from traditional college football fans that the playoffs somehow diminishes the college regular season.

Well said.
 

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And I'm not saying it should end their season. It wouldn't have in the old system, either. But it at least would have made the game mean more than it does now.
Who this really matters for are the teams outside of Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State. Now a team like Penn State can take a loss and make it.

Before, only those really elite programs like Ohio State could be in the championship with a regular season loss. Hell Alabama has had a couple losses in a season before and gets pushed up into the elite.

As an Iowa fan, we have no shot at winning the playoffs. But damn it would be cool to have a chance to participate. This setup actually gives us a chance. And maybe we win a game in the playoffs. I'm not just watching games wondering if it's the Capital One or some other non championship bowl game.
 
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