The Great Police Work Thread

[Clay_Allison]

Are you implying that public defenders do not give an adequate defense?

In all seriousness you guys with your $2,000.00 TVs on this message board can certainly afford an attorney.

My TV cost 150 and my CAR cost me 2,000. Regardless, one of my coworkers just paid 25k to an attorney over a BS charge, and he could afford to because his parents are rich. Meaning if I was charged with something serious, regardless of the merits of the charge, I'd be screwed because I can't come up with that kind of money.

Public defenders not only don't give adequate defense, they don't give defense at all. They work for the prosecutor's office to help force the defendant to plea bargain, regardless of the merits of the case. The best they will do is a good faith effort to negotiate for less time. It's not their fault, per se, because they can't afford to give adequate defense on what they are paid.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Don't be getting all uppity with the prison guard.

They're the only truly noble and honest link in the legal chain.

Nope. Of the many many things that are broken in the American legal system, the prison system (especially in TX) may be the most broken.

What I've been pointing out all along is the criminal justice system in the US has huge, glaring flaws that make all of us less safe and make a mockery out of the presumption of innocence. The people who are part of it, including cops and lawyers and prison guards, are mostly doing their jobs in a messed up environment.

 

[Jon88]

Basically if you have money in this country then it can buy your freedom.

 

[NoDak]

Over half of them are.

And you wonder why people call you an idiot.

 

[L.T. Fan]

One of the points of a capitalistic system is that the more resources you have the more you are able to control. Otherwise there is no point in having wealth. If you want complete economic equality try socialism. Be prepared however to be ruled by more government which I believe you detest. The solution to your presumed problems are actually to accumulate enough wealth to have your way about matters that concern you. You don't have a chance in hell to have your way in the opposing system.

 

[NoDak]

Public defenders not only don't give adequate defense, they don't give defense at all. They work for the prosecutor's office to help force the defendant to plea bargain, regardless of the merits of the case. The best they will do is a good faith effort to negotiate for less time. It's not their fault, per se, because they can't afford to give adequate defense on what they are paid.

When I was about 20, I was charged with fleeing a police officer, reckless endangerment, destruction of property, driving with a suspended license, and speeding. I got a court appointed attorney, and had a 6 man jury trial. I was found not guilty on all charges.


I was guilty as a MF'er. I guess that court appointed attorney just wasn't very good at his job.

 

[Jon88]

And you wonder why people call you an idiot.

Well to hurl as many insults as you do in my direction you obvisouly feel like you don't measure up to me.

It's OK. I wouldn't either.

 

[Cotton]

Over half of them are.

There's no use even discussing this if you're going to say fucking moronic things like this.

 

[Jon88]

There's no use even discussing this if you're going to say fucking moronic things like this.

Then don't discuss it with me.

 

[Cotton]

Then don't discuss it with me.

But, it's such fun poking the retard.

 

[Jon88]

But, it's such fun poking the retard.

Behind a keyboard maybe. You wouldn't talk like this in person, douche .

 

[Cotton]

Behind a keyboard maybe. You wouldn't talk like this in person, douche .

You gonna ask me for my address next, or you gonna ask to meet me somewhere to fist fight?

 

[NoDak]

Well to hurl as many insults as you do in my direction you obvisouly feel like you don't measure up to me.

It's OK. I wouldn't either.

Obvisouly.

 

[E_D_Guapo]

Over half of them are.

Come on, man. In my opinion most people on this board who have ever chimed in on the subject underestimate how much corruption/abuse of power there is in police departments across this country. I don't have the highest opinion of police/am inherently distrustful of them in general, but to say over half of all cops are shitbags? Alex Jones much?

 

[NoDak]

Come on, man. In my opinion most people on this board who have ever chimed in on the subject underestimate how much corruption/abuse of power there is in police departments across this country. I don't have the highest opinion of police/am inherently distrustful of them in general, but to say over half of all cops are shitbags? Alex Jones much?

I guess I'd be one of the ones you're talking about. But I have never once said that there aren't bad police. That there isn't far too much corruption and abuse of power. I will freely admit there is, and it is disgusting. The only time I speak up is when idiots like jon or bipo are saying the entire police force are nothing but 'jack booted thugs' or whatever stupidity they come up with. And from what I've seen here, that's pretty much what every one of "us" is saying.

And now they're comparing them to Nazi's? C'mon. How does anybody NOT laugh at the stupidity of that?

 

[E_D_Guapo]

I guess I'd be one of the ones you're talking about. But I have never once said that there aren't bad police. That there isn't far too much corruption and abuse of power. I will freely admit there are, and it is disgusting. The only time I speak up is when idiots like jon or bipo are saying the entire police force are nothing but 'jack booted thugs' or whatever stupidity they come up with. And I from what I've seen here, that's pretty much what every one of "us" is saying.

And now they're comparing them to Nazi's? C'mon. How does anybody NOT laugh at the stupidity of that?

Not singling you out at all. We've had a lot of these threads over the years and most people that comment do admit that there are bad cops or at least cops with terrible attitudes. I just think the percentage is higher than most of you guys (but certainly not "over half"). Some of that definitely comes from personal experiences I've had.

I could be the one who is overestimating the problem. But I don't think so.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Not singling you out at all. We've had a lot of these threads over the years and most people that comment do admit that there are bad cops or at least cops with terrible attitudes. I just think the percentage is higher than most of you guys (but certainly not "over half"). Some of that definitely comes from personal experiences I've had.

I could be the one who is overestimating the problem. But I don't think so.

When you get right down to it nobody knows any numbers for certain so all we can relate is our own experiences with them. Mine say the majority I have been in contact with are okay. That all anyone else can state with any certainty.

 

[jeebs]

So, they are just doing their jobs. So noted.

A cowards defense if I have ever heard one.

Choose a shit job, then use it to justify your shit actions

 

[jeebs]

Flash bang a toddler, "It is okay, i am just doingmy job, it is those corrupt politicians who are at fault".

Yea maybe, but you still flash anger a toddler

 

[2233boys]

Behind a keyboard maybe. You wouldn't talk like this in person, douche .