The Artificial Intelligence Thread

Chocolate Lab said:
If you're talking about robot soldiers, sure. But aren't most of these data centers for and by Meta, Google, Microsoft, etc.? (I know a lot of them are.) And are they going to contribute to making USA soldier-bots?

Besides, the commies have never been shy about sacrificing their vast populations of people in war. Cheaper for them to just send people into battles to be churned than extremely expensive bots with guns.

I guess I'm more concerned about Big Data using this to turn us into a CCP-style surveillance state.
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I don't know but regardless of who the contractor is I'm certain it's happening in some way shape or form already. Hell it could be Tesla.

The Chinese are certainly already well down that road and aside from China, it'd be a very good way for a rogue state to get their agendas happening on the world stage.
 
Yeah, it's one of those incredibly complex issues. And nobody really knows how it will turn out. We've literally never seen anything like this before.

One thing I'll say is like Peter Navarro said: If they're going to build these data centers everywhere -- and they are -- they need to be paid for entirely by these wealthy megacorporations like Amazon, Google, etc. and not the American taxpayer. And the government needs to make sure the huge amounts of energy and even water that these things consume don't make us all pay far more for those vital things.
 
Genghis Khan said:
There's no doubt in my mind. You can create an army where they are not human so they won't have a danger of losing morale or running, and you don't care if they "die" so you can just throw massive numbers of them at the enemy. And they won't hesitate to kill and they can carry a bunch of heavy equipment and don't need to be fed? And if they get killed you can just make more?

And that's just the tip of iceberg of what an army like that is capable of.

Good luck if you haven't kept up with that.
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I'm fine keeping up with the tech as far as the military goes. It's the private sector I'm talking about. I guess that is the differentiation.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I think AI could have tremendous medical benefits. Ideas, procedures, cures that we have never been capable of thinking up, AI could potentially solve. There is amazing potential in something that can learn so fast. But it's also playing with fire when talking about military benefits.
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Let me put my tin foil hat on real quick. They could cure a lot of that shit now, but Big Pharma would never allow it if they have any say at all. And that sector has enough money to say a lot and has a ton of pull. But, I do agree that it could have the potential to help the medical field just as soon as the corruption in that field is remedied.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
And the government needs to make sure the huge amounts of energy and even water that these things consume don't make us all pay far more for those vital things.
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Yep, and Elon has already come out and said he thinks that the cost of building one of these data centers should include water and energy (he mentioned solar) infrastructure to run the place without need for outside sources.
 
Cotton said:
I'm fine keeping up with the tech as far as the military goes. It's the private sector I'm talking about. I guess that is the differentiation.
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Let me play devil's advocate for a minute.

There's no question that there will be some level of demand for civilian AI.

If we aren't developing the tech but a place like China is, isn't it logical that people would be buying this stuff from China? If the US didn't make cars people would still buy cars.

So if AI is in people's homes and lives and factories and McDonald's and whatever else, and it all came from China...they could do all manner of nefarious stuff in that case.

I'd trust American AI far more.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Let me play devil's advocate for a minute.

There's no question that there will be some level of demand for civilian AI.

If we aren't developing the tech but a place like China is, isn't it logical that people would be buying this stuff from China? If the US didn't make cars people would still buy cars.

So if AI is in people's homes and lives and factories and McDonald's and whatever else, and it all came from China...they could do all manner of nefarious stuff in that case.

I'd trust American AI far more.
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Oh, I agree 100%. My assertation is we keep certain things the way they are here without using AI. We can do it with outlawing certain things, sanctions, etc. But, this conversation doesn't stop at civilian luxuries. What do we do with the millions upon millions of people that will be out of a job? I know it's a completely different conversation but that might be the most important part of it.
 

Definitely left-leaning. So is Grok.
 
Cujo said:
Definitely left-leaning. So is Grok.
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And this is a great example of why I don't trust AI. It is way too easily manipulated for a desired result. Imagine this kind of bias on a level 100 times worse than this.
 
Cotton said:
Another example:

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The comments underneath are claiming this is false or that they were using an older version, so tried it. Here’s what I got:

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This is what I got. They are wrong, Cujo.

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Cujo said:
I wonder why I got different answers? That’s strange.
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Might be how you asked the question in one part, instead of asking two questions? Try it just like I did.
 
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