Prospects Dallas Has Shown Interest In - 2026

Status
Not open for further replies.
Cowboysrock55 said:
Round 4?
Click to expand...
You want a mid-round WR? Might I interest you in NDSU Bison WR Bryce Lance? Go check out his production and combine numbers. I’d post them, but I’m on my phone. Fuck that hassle.

His combine might push him in to the 3rd, tho. If he was from a bigger school, he’d probably be a solid 2nd.
 
NoDak said:
You want a mid-round WR? Might I interest you in NDSU Bison WR Bryce Lance? Go check out his production and combine numbers. I’d post them, but I’m on my phone. Fuck that hassle.

His combine might push him in to the 3rd, tho. If he was from a bigger school, he’d probably be a solid 2nd.
Click to expand...

I actually agree with you but I think he could go round 2 or 3. Basically I'd be surprised if he is still around by our pick in round 4.

And I know everyone here thinks that every pick needs to be defense. But come round four I'm not filling needs. At that point you absolutely should be drafting BPA.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I actually agree with you but I think he could go round 2 or 3. Basically I'd be surprised if he is still around by our pick in round 4.

And I know everyone here thinks that every pick needs to be defense. But come round four I'm not filling needs. At that point you absolutely should be drafting BPA.
Click to expand...


Round 4 I'm still going defense unless there's an offensive player sitting there that should have gone way higher.
 
NoDak said:
You want a mid-round WR? Might I interest you in NDSU Bison WR Bryce Lance? Go check out his production and combine numbers. I’d post them, but I’m on my phone. Fuck that hassle.

His combine might push him in to the 3rd, tho. If he was from a bigger school, he’d probably be a solid 2nd.
Click to expand...
He did look good in the drills yesterday too.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Round 4 I'm still going defense unless there's an offensive player sitting there that should have gone way higher.
Click to expand...

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer the BPA to be on the defensive side of the ball. But if I can find a guy who becomes an NFL starting player in the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round I'm taking him regardless of the side of the ball he plays on. You just never know what will happen with injuries and contract down the road. If you're trying to fill a hole in the fourth you're already fucked.
 
I’m not taking defense in the 4th and on just to say I took defense. The value better be there. Of course I’d prefer the pick was a good one for the defense, but I’m not forcing a flyer on a defensive player if an actual value pick on offense is there. That’s how you end up with the shit depth problem we are currently in.

The first few rounds? Sure. The cream is at the top. I have zero problem focusing defense there. But the 4th on is where it starts getting murky.
 
NoDak said:
I’m not taking defense in the 4th and on just to say I took defense. The value better be there. Of course I’d prefer the pick was a good one for the defense, but I’m not forcing a flyer on a defensive player if an actual value pick on offense is there. That’s how you end up with the shit depth problem we are currently in.

The first few rounds? Sure. The cream is at the top. I have zero problem focusing defense there. But the 4th on is where it starts getting murky.
Click to expand...
I would agree with that. If the value isn't there go where the value is. But, all things being equal and us not doing anything in FA or the first for the secondary I will most likely be going secondary.
 
Most of the time when you get to the fourth and lower, there aren't huge differences in the rankings anyway. And if it's even close, I'm taking defense.

Where else are the players going to come from? Free agency?
:rofl
 
Genghis Khan said:
RB was a deep class last year. So we waited until the 5th round and ended up with Blue.

Sure glad we waited.
Click to expand...
Good point, and if we can’t trade down then we’re left with the picks we have. That’s why they have to trade down.

If they are at 20, and we already selected at spot 12 and there’s no trade down happening, then yeah draft a CB if they top your board.

But trade down
 
NoDak said:
You want a mid-round WR? Might I interest you in NDSU Bison WR Bryce Lance? Go check out his production and combine numbers. I’d post them, but I’m on my phone. Fuck that hassle.

His combine might push him in to the 3rd, tho. If he was from a bigger school, he’d probably be a solid 2nd.
Click to expand...
Not a huge fan of 3rd round WRs, but if he has the production and the measurables, like real NFL speed I’d think about it.

The need is at RB offensively if we are going to take a break from drafting defense for a round, and there’s a prospect who tops the 3rd that really interests me— Jonah Coleman from Washington. He’s on the slightly slow side, but at 5-8/5-9 and 220 pounds he has awesome balance and can pass block. Bounces off tacklers like few backs I’ve seen.

High redzone production and an elusive runner overall. I wish he was quicker at the jump, but he often chooses his blocks. Needs to develop his initial power, or he’d be a clear 2nd rounder.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Most of the time when you get to the fourth and lower, there aren't huge differences in the rankings anyway.
Click to expand...

I couldn't disagree more. When you get into the fifth round suddenly you may have a guy available who you rated 2 rounds better. This is especially true by the sixth and seventh round. In the first and second round odds are you're just getting a first round talent or a second round talent. And in the second round it's highly unlikely you're even getting a guy you have rated as a first rounder.

The later in the draft you get the more variable ratings will be from team to team. Which is why it's way more important to draft your highest rated player. As opposed to getting a corner you have ranked as a fifth rounder in the fifth round because gosh darn, we need defense. And now you've picked someone worse than Carson anyway.

Funny how much everyone here has abandoned BPA in the blink of an eye because of how bad the defense was.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I couldn't disagree more. When you get into the fifth round suddenly you may have a guy available who you rated 2 rounds better. This is especially true by the sixth and seventh round. In the first and second round odds are you're just getting a first round talent or a second round talent. And in the second round it's highly unlikely you're even getting a guy you have rated as a first rounder.

The later in the draft you get the more variable ratings will be from team to team. Which is why it's way more important to draft your highest rated player. As opposed to getting a corner you have ranked as a fifth rounder in the fifth round because gosh darn, we need defense. And now you've picked someone worse than Carson anyway.

Funny how much everyone here has abandoned BPA in the blink of an eye because of how bad the defense was.
Click to expand...
I haven't abandoned BPA at all. Because best pick available (whether you want it to or not) factors in need. If you have two players you rank 160 and 155 on your board and the 160 is a defensive player. Need + board placement => 160. Meaning the need can push a player slightly higher in your rankings if you are also filling a need. You can't go pure BPA and draft worth a shit. It is a balance of BPA and need. It's when you focus on need and need alone is when you have abandoned BPA and you start to reach.
 
I get that scenario happening, but one, I doubt it happens that often that one and only one player is that far ahead of anyone else. Two, if it does the odds are 50/50 that it's a defensive player anyway. And three, do we really trust these guys to have their rankings that accurate?

Besides, say we can't or don't trade down. If those 4th and 5th round picks are guards and a center, just take them? I get that in a perfect world you would, but these guys suck at free agency so we have to get players on defense somehow.

And to be clear, I'm not talking about strictly drafting for need like with Bossman Fat, when we needed a corner but missed in the first so we had to grab one whether he was any good or not. I'm assuming the rankings aren't that different offense vs defense, and I'm not talking about any one particular position but one of several on defense.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
I'm assuming the rankings aren't that different offense vs defense, and I'm not talking about any one particular position but one of several on defense.
Click to expand...

In the first I think that's a safe assumption. By the fourth or fifth round, I don't think it is any longer. Like I said there is too much variation from one teams board to another. There isn't nearly as much variation when talking about the first 10-15 pick in the draft. But the deeper you get in the draft the more variation there is. All I'm saying is by the fourth round, I'm taking BPA.

Sure you may have 2 guys left with third round grades. One defense and one offense. If they were closely ranked in the third round, you take the defensive guy.

And no I don't trust any NFL team to have their rankings that accurate. Which is why on day three when your odds of finding a starting caliber player are slim already, why would you be drafting for need over just getting the best player?
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Funny how much everyone here has abandoned BPA in the blink of an eye because of how bad the defense was.
Click to expand...


There's a reality to this, which is the team doesn't spend in free agency AND fielded one of the worst defenses in the history of the league (while simultaneously having a championship ready offense).

I haven't abandoned my predilection for BPA but I do acknowledge that they paint themselves into a particular corner.

And they have so many needs on defense that there's a real chance that BPA and need will converge anyway.

If that changes then great, but I will believe it when I see it.
 
Genghis Khan said:
I will say though, on the other hand relying on 3 or 4 rookies to fix your broken defense is a fool's endeavor but here we are.
Click to expand...

The only real answer on defense is coaching (which I think we fixed) and free agency.

The draft is important but the draft isn't really about filling immediate holes. The draft is about long term. A year or two from now you want the players you draft to be the core of the team. Granted first round picks will play and a couple will be stars as rookies. But if you're drafting to plug holes you'll always be playing catchup. You have to get ahead of the curve and the way to do that is free agency.

But I get it, free agency has been shit for this team. And even when we nail it in free agency on a player (Jevonte) its a one year deal and we are back to trying to sign the guy again the following year.

Also I'm not all about BPA, especially in the first. I've always said if BPA is the wrong position you get on the phone to trade down. Trading up or down is sort of the equalizer in the BPA equation. You don't have to just stay put and pick guys as they come to you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom