Prospects Dallas Has Shown Interest In - 2023

[Simpleton]

Not necessarily in the first but after that. Bell, Bland, Davis, Harper, Sam Williams all were 30 visit guys last year.

But truth is, just because a guy isn't a 30 visit doesn't mean he won't be a pick. But if you look at the 30 visits it's safe to say a handful of those guys will eventually be Cowboys. Even if it's as a priority free agent.

Oh yea we're definitely taking a WR, interior OL and LB within the first 4-5 rounds based on what I'm seeing, just not sure it's necessarily a signal for where we're going at 26.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

This is an interesting one, I wouldn't hate it at 26, I loved him last year when I thought he was coming out but then he went back to school for his senior year.

Like most positions we would obviously be fine if we didn't address DE high in the draft, but ultimately adding more edge rush talent allows us to be more flexible with Parsons without just asking him to rush off the edge 85% of the time, thus wearing him down.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

This is an interesting one, I wouldn't hate it at 26, I loved him last year when I thought he was coming out but then he went back to school for his senior year.

Like most positions we would obviously be fine if we didn't address DE high in the draft, but ultimately adding more edge rush talent allows us to be more flexible with Parsons without just asking him to rush off the edge 85% of the time, thus wearing him down.

I mean Quinn definitely loves his rush ends. I have a hard time figuring out what to do with all these guys he constantly collects. If we take a pass rusher I'll just have to trust that he has a plan. But it feels like a high pick on a pass rusher could wait another year. With Lawrence, Parsons, Sam Williams, Armstrong and Fowler we are already rolling about 5 deep at DE. And all those guys are legit players who deserve to see snaps. Not to mention Gholston who is a DE/DT type and Tak who he keeps dragging along as well. I just don't see how you can justify another high draft pick on a pass rusher but I like the player.

 

[Simpleton]

I mean Quinn definitely loves his rush ends. I have a hard time figuring out what to do with all these guys he constantly collects. If we take a pass rusher I'll just have to trust that he has a plan. But it feels like a high pick on a pass rusher could wait another year. With Lawrence, Parsons, Sam Williams, Armstrong and Fowler we are already rolling about 5 deep at DE. And all those guys are legit players who deserve to see snaps. Not to mention Gholston who is a DE/DT type and Tak who he keeps dragging along as well. I just don't see how you can justify another high draft pick on a pass rusher but I like the player.

I agree, I just like McDonald as a prospect and would trust that Quinn has a specific role in mind that helps free up Parsons while providing cover for Lawrence declining in the next year or two.

But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about loading up on 240-250 lb. edge rushers with premium picks without much on the interior.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I agree, I just like McDonald as a prospect and would trust that Quinn has a specific role in mind that helps free up Parsons while providing cover for Lawrence declining in the next year or two.

But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about loading up on 240-250 lb. edge rushers with premium picks without much on the interior.

Kind of feels like a year early to me but I like the player. Now next year, arguably would be a great time to draft another DE. Hopefully by then Sam Williams is a legit starting caliber guy. But Lawrence will be near the end. Fowler and Armstrong are unsigned after this year. So to me, drafting a guy next year makes more sense. This year I just don't see how you fit a guy in the room. Had we not made resigning Fowler a priority things would be different. But right now I'm not even sure how much Fowler plays with the way Sam Williams looked last year. Sam Williams was another sort of targeted DE pass rusher by Quinn.

I wish we would show this much focus on DT's for a year or two. Because that's where I think we could actually still dramatically improve the defense.

 

[Simpleton]

Kind of feels like a year early to me but I like the player. Now next year, arguably would be a great time to draft another DE. Hopefully by then Sam Williams is a legit starting caliber guy. But Lawrence will be near the end. Fowler and Armstrong are unsigned after this year. So to me, drafting a guy next year makes more sense. This year I just don't see how you fit a guy in the room. Had we not made resigning Fowler a priority things would be different. But right now I'm not even sure how much Fowler plays with the way Sam Williams looked last year. Sam Williams was another sort of targeted DE pass rusher by Quinn.

I wish we would show this much focus on DT's for a year or two. Because that's where I think we could actually still dramatically improve the defense.

I think it's a good idea to forecast upcoming needs while addressing them proactively, even a year early if that's how things play out. Waiting until you're forced to address a position in the draft isn't a great idea, and if Lawrence drops off while Armstrong leaves in FA next year that's exactly where we'll be.

I wouldn't want a DE over a clearly better prospect at OL, TE, RB or whatever, but if all things are equal I wouldn't mind going DE at all.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So who do you guys think replaces Lawrence next year or whenever the time comes? Most of our guys seem more like 34 OLB types. Seems like Williams is the only guy possibly big and strong enough to do that.

 

[Cotton]

So who do you guys think replaces Lawrence next year or whenever the time comes? Most of our guys seem more like 34 OLB types. Seems like Williams is the only guy possibly big and strong enough to do that.

It will be Sam mf'ing Williams.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think it's a good idea to forecast upcoming needs while addressing them proactively, even a year early if that's how things play out. Waiting until you're forced to address a position in the draft isn't a great idea, and if Lawrence drops off while Armstrong leaves in FA next year that's exactly where we'll be.

I wouldn't want a DE over a clearly better prospect at OL, TE, RB or whatever, but if all things are equal I wouldn't mind going DE at all.

I don't think we would be forced to next offseason either. But we would at least potentially have room on the roster. Right now you're so deep that someone good will need to be cut or traded. You can't carry that many DEs and expect to have depth at other positions. I'm all about being proactive. But that's what we did with Sam Williams last year. Eventually you have to realize that there are other important positions besides DE.

 

[boozeman]

This is an interesting one, I wouldn't hate it at 26, I loved him last year when I thought he was coming out but then he went back to school for his senior year.

Like most positions we would obviously be fine if we didn't address DE high in the draft, but ultimately adding more edge rush talent allows us to be more flexible with Parsons without just asking him to rush off the edge 85% of the time, thus wearing him down.

We also cannot keep Lawrence around forever.

 

[boozeman]

Updated listing with the new top-30 guys:

Top-30 National Visitors

Clayton Tune, QB, Houston
Zach Evans, RB, Mississippi
Keandre Miller, RB, TCU
Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU
Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College
Rashee Rice, WR, SMU
Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina
Jonathan Mingo, WR, Mississippi
Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee
Payne Durham, TE, Purdue
Brayden Willis, TE, Oklahoma
Steve Avila, OG, TCU
Atonio Mafi, OG, UCLA
Ilm Manning, OG, Hawaii
Will McDonald, DE, Iowa State
Jaquelin Roy, DT, LSU
Tyler Lacy, DT, Oklahoma State
Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson
DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas
Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Mississippi State
Tyrique Stevenson, CB, Miami (FL)
Marte Mapu, S/LB, Sacramento State
Tanner McAllister, S, Ohio State

Dallas Day

Logan Bonner, QB, Utah State
Max Duggan, QB, TCU
Marvin Mims, WR, Oklahoma
Malik Knowles, WR, Kansas State
Keilahn Harris, WR, Oklahoma Baptist
Alan Ali, OG, TCU
Calvin Avery, DT, Illinois
Jimmy Phillips, LB, SMU
Dee Winters, LB, TCU
Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB, TCU
Michael Turk, P, Oklahoma

Bowl Game/Pro Day/Private Workouts

Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee
Aidan O'Connell, QB, Purdue
Malik Cunningham, QB, Louisville
Clayton Tune, QB, Houston
Lindsey Scott, QB, Incarnate Word
Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane
Roschon Johnson, RB, Texas
Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M
Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina
Tank Dell, WR, Houston
Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee
Austin Upshaw, WR, SMU
Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee
Lachlan Pitts, TE, William & Mary
Juice Scruggs, C, Penn State
Mark Evans, OG, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Ilm Manning, OG, Hawaii
Will McDonald, DE, Iowa State
Lukas Van Ness, DE, Iowa
Tuli Tuipulotu, DE, USC
Durrell Johnson, DE, Liberty
M.J. Anderson, DT, Iowa State
DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas
Dorian Johnson, LB, Tulane
DeShaun White, LB, Oklahoma
Tyrique Stevenson, CB, Miami (Fla)
Eric Scott, CB, Southern Mississippi
Anthony Kendall, CB, Baldwin-Wallace
Chad Ryland, K, Maryland

Combine Meetings

Max Duggan, QB, TCU
Dorian Thompson-Robinson, QB, UCLA
Jaren Hall, QB, BYU
Israel Abanikanda, RB, Pittsburgh
Zach Evans, RB, Mississippi
Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M
Eric Gray, RB, Oklahoma
Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane
Tank Bigsby, RB, Auburn
Tiyon Evans, RB, Louisville
Camerun Peoples, RB, Appalachian State
SaRodorick Thompson, RB, Texas Tech
Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State
Rashee Rice, WR, SMU
Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College
Jordan Addison, WR, USC
Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee
Rakim Jarrett, WR, Maryland
Mitchell Tinsley, WR, Penn State
Tre Tucker, WR, Cincinnati
Jo Ngata, WR, Clemson
Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan
Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah
Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State
Cameron Latu, TE, Alabama
Brenton Strange, TE, Penn State
Leonard Taylor, TE, Cincinnati
John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota
Alex Forsyth, C, Oregon
Jarrett Patterson, C, Notre Dame
Tyler Steen, OG. Alabama
T.J. Bass, OG, Oregon
O’Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida
John Ojukwu, OG, Boise State
Andrew Vorhees, OT USC
Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia
Asim Richards, OT, North Carolina
Connor Galvin, OT, Baylor
Anthony Bradford, OT, LSU
Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma
Ryan Hayes, OT, Michigan
Wanya Morris, OT, Oklahoma
Felix Anudike-Uzomah, DE, Kansas State
D.J. Johnson, DE, Oregon
Gervon Dexter, DT, Florida
Dante Stills, DT, West Virginia
D.J. Dale, DT, Alabama
Keondre Coburn, DT, Texas
Byron Young, DT, Alabama
Mike Morris, DT, Michigan
Daiyon Henley, LB, Washington
Tyrus Wheat, LB, Mississippi State
Demarvion Overshown, LB, Texas
Derick Hall, LB, Auburn
Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina
Rezjohn Wright, CB, Oregon State
Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois
Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
Alex Austin, CB, Oregon State
Joey Porter, CB, Penn State
Kellee Ringo, CB, Georgia
Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State
Myles Brooks, CB, Louisiana Tech
Arquon Bush, CB, Cincinnati
Mekhi Garner, CB, LSU
J.L. Skinner, S, Boise State
Gervarrius Ward, S, Houston
Ja'Korian Bennett, S, Maryland
Ronnie Hickman, S, Ohio State
Brandon Hill, S, Pittsburgh
Jay Ward, S, LSU
Chamarri Conner, S, Virginia Tech
Trey Dean, S, Florida
Brian Branch, S, Alabama

 

[Simpleton]

I don't think we would be forced to next offseason either. But we would at least potentially have room on the roster. Right now you're so deep that someone good will need to be cut or traded. You can't carry that many DEs and expect to have depth at other positions. I'm all about being proactive. But that's what we did with Sam Williams last year. Eventually you have to realize that there are other important positions besides DE.

That's not necessarily the case if we're using Parsons more as a 2nd LB than we did last year, the rookie DE would basically be taking Barr's roster spot, plus Fowler is a short timer and could even be cut given that he's on a cheap 1 year deal if we really wanted to do it.

So long story short, I think we can easily carry another high round DE on the depth chart.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

That's not necessarily the case if we're using Parsons more as a 2nd LB than we did last year,

If you want to call Parsons a LBer that's just silly in my opinion. He is a DE that occasionally plays LBer for a breather.

I'm sure you can find a way to fit a DE on the roster if he is really stellar value. But beyond that it's just silly in my opinion to take one early.

 

[boozeman]

If someone thinks that DE is not a need on this team has no fucking idea what they are talking about.

I mean, we are counting on Dorance Armstrong for a lot of snaps.

 

[Cotton]

If someone thinks that DE is not a need on this team has no fucking idea what they are talking about.

I mean, we are counting on Dorance Armstrong for a lot of snaps.

You contradicted yourself in one post.

 

[Simpleton]

If you want to call Parsons a LBer that's just silly in my opinion. He is a DE that occasionally plays LBer for a breather.

I'm sure you can find a way to fit a DE on the roster if he is really stellar value. But beyond that it's just silly in my opinion to take one early.

I'm not calling Parsons a LB necessarily, I'm saying the concern over roster spots is a bit unfounded since Parsons should probably be playing a decent amount of snaps off the ball to preserve his body and that a 1st/2nd round DE would basically be taking Barr's roster spot in that instance. Barr was a rotational guy, Parsons can be rotated at LB, the new DE could theoretically take some of those edge snaps off Parsons in certain situations where Parsons was unnecessarily banging his head against a wall last year and there you go.

And there's value in adding that extra edge rusher since Lawrence and Armstrong are basically our interior pass rushers in nickel/dime given that we have no real impact pass rushers at DT. If you count them as that you're left with Williams, Fowler and Parsons on the edge, add in a 1st/2nd round DE and you free up Parsons while also mitigating a future need with regard to Lawrence declining and Armstrong leaving.

Again, it's not much of a need by any means but neither is TE or WR or CB, so if the value takes us there I'd understand it.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Again, it's not much of a need

It's not a need at all. You're literally talking about the plays where your DEs are playing DT. No way in hell in those situations (very obvious passing downs) would you not be using Parsons at end. This is a lot of song and dance to justify drafting a guy you don't need at all.

Look, if the value is just too good to pass up, take a DE. It's pure luxury not need. The value has to be that great because there is a certain amount of inefficiency adding more players at a position of strength as opposed to positions where you could need a starter or depth. We need neither at DE right now. Which doesn't mean you can't take one, just that it better be a real stud to do it. Because you're eliminating one of your good players either from the roster or at least from being active on game days.

 

[Simpleton]

It's not a need at all. You're literally talking about the plays where your DEs are playing DT. No way in hell in those situations (very obvious passing downs) would you not be using Parsons at end. This is a lot of song and dance to justify drafting a guy you don't need at all.

Look, if the value is just too good to pass up, take a DE. It's pure luxury not need. The value has to be that great because there is a certain amount of inefficiency adding more players at a position of strength as opposed to positions where you could need a starter or depth. We need neither at DE right now. Which doesn't mean you can't take one, just that it better be a real stud to do it. Because you're eliminating one of your good players either from the roster or at least from being active on game days.

There aren't any real needs on the roster beyond DT so it's not really a song and dance.

WR? Whoever we draft will probably be our 4th WR next year.
OG? On the bench unless there's an injury, or unless they actually decide to bench Steele for whatever reason instead of moving Tyler to LG.
CB? On the bench unless there's an injury, and still probably on the bench unless there are two injuries.
RB? Pollard just got franchised and went to the Pro Bowl.
TE? Probably the clearest need on the roster outside of DT but still not glaring by any means.
LB? On the bench as long as LVE is healthy and it'd probably even take an injury to both LVE and Clark to get on the field for significant snaps.

So yea, it's not a song and dance, it's the reality of the state of the current roster and there's definite value to be had in taking another edge rusher, they wouldn't just be collecting them for fun like they would be at CB.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

There aren't any real needs on the roster beyond DT so it's not really a song and dance.

WR? Whoever we draft will probably be our 4th WR next year.
OG? On the bench unless there's an injury, or unless they actually decide to bench Steele for whatever reason instead of moving Tyler to LG.
CB? On the bench unless there's an injury, and still probably on the bench unless there are two injuries.
RB? Pollard just got franchised and went to the Pro Bowl.
TE? Probably the clearest need on the roster outside of DT but still not glaring by any means.
LB? On the bench as long as LVE is healthy and it'd probably even take an injury to both LVE and Clark to get on the field for significant snaps.

So yea, it's not a song and dance, it's the reality of the state of the current roster and there's definite value to be had in taking another edge rusher, they wouldn't just be collecting them for fun like they would be at CB.

I sort of agree to the extent I don't think we have glaring holes. But I disagree with some of your premise. I've got 4+ DEs I trust.

You go to WR and we have 2 guys I trust. After last year I do not trust Gallup. And I don't know that the Cowboys do either which is why they are scouting receiver so hard.

Oline, I've got 4 guys I trust. I don't trust Tyron, no one should after his last 3 years.

RB, one guy I trust. I sort of trust Ronald Jones as a #2 but that's shaky.

TE, I trust Fergashot. But that isn't to say they can't be improved on.

I trust LVE and to an extent Clark. But again, could be improved upon too.

Corner, I trust 4 guys. So that's pretty strong. Stronger than the other positions I've listed.

If you add it all up the two positions I trust most next year are safety and DE. If a guy blows you away in value you can afford to still take him at those positions. However, if it's even in the same ball park as the other positions, I'm taking those guys instead.