Programming Note

[skidadl]

Did Welker? Does Edelman?

He is a niche player. He just needs to do what he does well and it looks like he is doing it.

He should compensate some for the lack of lead runner.

 

[p1_]

Cool, thanks for letting us know.

That should be a mod's responsibility.

 

[p1_]

Randle showing up as the mentally weak guy I have told you all about.

Of course, I now admit I was wrong about Shrimp Beasley. That little shit is tearing it up.

Lesson here is it's good when Booze is wrong. It appears to be a 50% ratio in this instance.

 

[Cotton]

That should be a mod's responsibility.

I've been slacking lately. I'm only posting like 40 posts a day now instead of 50.

 

[ravidubey]

Did Welker? Does Edelman?

Both absolutely did just that.

Recall the pattern Welker ran on his famous Superbowl drop. And Edelman totally broke out this past season which probably put the Pats offense over the top with a healthy Gronk.

Give it up.

If you don't vary your game, good defenses will pin you down. Dallas needs better production.

If Edelman can up his game, Beasley can.

 

[Cotton]

Both absolutely did just that.

Recall the pattern Welker ran on his famous Superbowl drop. And Edelman totally broke out this past season which probably put the Pats offense over the top with a healthy Gronk.

If you don't vary your game, good defenses will pin you down.

So, you're returning fire with a play that ended in a drop and a player that needed support from the rest of his team. So noted.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Both absolutely did just that.

Recall the pattern Welker ran on his famous Superbowl drop. And Edelman totally broke out this past season which probably put the Pats offense over the top with a healthy Gronk.


If you don't vary your game, good defenses will pin you down. Dallas needs better production.

If Edelman can up his game, Beasley can.

That Welker play was from the slot and Edelman plays 95% from the slot and chew on these stats.

In their 1st 3 years

Welker 29 catches 439 yards 10.1 YPC Avg Career 0 TD's

Edelman 48 catches 424 yards 10.3 YPC Avg Career 1 TD

Beasly 91 catches 916 yds 10.1 YPC Avg Career 6 TD's

Once again pulling shit out of your ass that really has no merit.

Ravi I think you are great poster but you get on these tangents that just don't stand up.

 

[ravidubey]

That Welker play was from the slot and Edelman plays 95% from the slot and chew on these stats.

Fine. Fine. Avalanche of pro-Beasley opinions aside (yeesh), the initial premise was a desire to attack the entire field, which is exactly what Welker was doing on that play, regardless of where he lined up.

We don't need a bunch of one-trick ponies, no matter how good that trick is.

Even Alvin Harper, mental midget that he was, supplemented his leaping ability with an all-around game. That famous 70 yard catch against San Fran came on a play when he and Irvin switched positions ad-hoc.

Could either of our secondary receivers do that with Dez?

This offense works best when the defense doesn't know what's coming.

In their 1st 3 years

? Don't care about how they started, just that Beasley gets to were Edelman got to in 2014

 

[Cowboysrock55]

This offense works best when the defense doesn't know what's coming.

If he was struggling to get open you'd have a point. I don't care how limited a WR is if he consistently gets open and catches balls. That's what Beasley can do.

 

[ravidubey]

If he was struggling to get open you'd have a point. I don't care how limited a WR is if he consistently gets open and catches balls. That's what Beasley can do.

I think we saw the whole passing game taken down several notches in the playoffs and yeah I lay that partially at his feet. They swarmed Dez, so it's up to the other WR's to break the game open. Instead Witten was the one shaking loose and while I love the guy he's not exactly a game-breaker.

Catching the ball is one thing, but Beasley is going to have to learn to actually do something with it once he catches it. It's a major part of a WR's job.

Getting a first down is good, but you need to chew up yardage so we don't need so many more first downs.

Part of that is on Romo leading him properly, but it comes down to the route being run. If a guy just squares in with his back to the post every time, YAC is very, very hard.

 

[boozeman]

If he was struggling to get open you'd have a point. I don't care how limited a WR is if he consistently gets open and catches balls. That's what Beasley can do.

There is a condition. I think he has to be in the slot. Outside, he will get jammed into the bench.

 

[boozeman]

I think we saw the whole passing game taken down several notches in the playoffs and yeah I lay that partially at his feet. They swarmed Dez, so it's up to the other WR's to break the game open. Instead Witten was the one shaking loose and while I love the guy he's not exactly a game-breaker.

Catching the ball is one thing, but Beasley is going to have to learn to actually do something with it once he catches it. It's a major part of a WR's job.

Getting a first down is good, but you need to chew up yardage so we don't need so many more first downs.

Part of that is on Romo leading him properly, but it comes down to the route being run. If a guy just squares in with his back to the post every time, YAC is very, very hard.

You are forcing me to defend Shrimp Beasley, but man you are way off thinking he doesn't get YAC. No, he's not Jerry Rice with the ball, but he does pretty good. He can slip around.

 

[Cotton]

I think we saw the whole passing game taken down several notches in the playoffs and yeah I lay that partially at his feet. They swarmed Dez, so it's up to the other WR's to break the game open. Instead Witten was the one shaking loose and while I love the guy he's not exactly a game-breaker.

Catching the ball is one thing, but Beasley is going to have to learn to actually do something with it once he catches it. It's a major part of a WR's job.

Getting a first down is good, but you need to chew up yardage so we don't need so many more first downs.

Part of that is on Romo leading him properly, but it comes down to the route being run. If a guy just squares in with his back to the post every time, YAC is very, very hard.

Jesus Christ, your position here is really dumb. The guy does nothing but get open, catch balls, and get first downs, and you somehow want him to be a superstar. He has a niche and he fills that niche VERY well.

 

[boozeman]

Jesus Christ, your position here is really dumb. The guy does nothing but get open, catch balls, and get first downs, and you somehow want him to be a superstar. He has a niche and he fills that niche VERY well.

This sounds like an idea for a "hot take" article.

 

[Texas Ace]

Ravi, I don't know what you've been watching buddy, because the one thing that little bastid does is get YAC.

The guy is a good player and is exactly what you want out of a 3rd WR. I don't know what else you want.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Beasley for President.

 

[Cotton]

This sounds like an idea for a "hot take" article.

It would end up being Ravi arguing with the rest of the world about his position, but I'm game.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Fine. Fine. Avalanche of pro-Beasley opinions aside (yeesh), the initial premise was a desire to attack the entire field, which is exactly what Welker was doing on that play, regardless of where he lined up.

We don't need a bunch of one-trick ponies, no matter how good that trick is.

Even Alvin Harper, mental midget that he was, supplemented his leaping ability with an all-around game. That famous 70 yard catch against San Fran came on a play when he and Irvin switched positions ad-hoc.

Could either of our secondary receivers do that with Dez?

This offense works best when the defense doesn't know what's coming.



? Don't care about how they started, just that Beasley gets to were Edelman got to in 2014

So you want Beasley to be Romo's number 1 target?

Edelman would not have gotten to where he did if Brady had Dez.

This agenda you are pushing is strange, I could understand it if Beasley was even the 2nd option on this team but he is the 4th maybe pushing for 3rd.

 

[Jiggyfly]

I think we saw the whole passing game taken down several notches in the playoffs and yeah I lay that partially at his feet. They swarmed Dez, so it's up to the other WR's to break the game open. Instead Witten was the one shaking loose and while I love the guy he's not exactly a game-breaker.

Catching the ball is one thing, but Beasley is going to have to learn to actually do something with it once he catches it. It's a major part of a WR's job.

Getting a first down is good, but you need to chew up yardage so we don't need so many more first downs.

Part of that is on Romo leading him properly, but it comes down to the route being run. If a guy just squares in with his back to the post every time, YAC is very, very hard.

Beasley Playoffs

7-101, 14.4 ypc.

Explain how he was the problem again?

You are jusy making shit up to complain about.

Edelman had a 10.8 YPC and 1 TD so tell us again why is such a better playmaker.

 

[ravidubey]

Beasley Playoffs

7-101, 14.4 ypc.

Explain how he was the problem again?

I know the stats. No Wr had more than 4 catches in either game. At ATT Stadium Romo hit a few passes in stride and we had a strong YAC day overall despite fewer catches (Williams leading the way), but that ended in GB. A strong running day by Murray, and we still couldn't pass.

Meanwhile #3 Davante Adams-- a rookie-- had 7-116 in that single game. You see Cole Beasley doing that in the playoffs-- even if he got to play against the Cowboys defense? With the attention Dez, Witten, and Williams draw, someone should be tearing up the opposing defense.

There were similar games, like vs Seattle. Williams again made them pay with a couple of big catches, but Beasley couldn't. Beasley might move the chains and for stretches he might even carry a decent average, but the stats don't show his inability to take over when everyone else is covered.

Beasley can improve, but IMO he lacks the pedigree to improve much.

He ranks 185 out of 200 in Yards at the Catch/reception (4.29-- including TEs and every other WR, slot or otherwise), so any yards after the catch he gains is very exaggerated. If you catch a two yard pass, then a mere three yards of YAC is 60% of your yardage.