MLB Chatter Thread

Kbrown said:
Nolan and co. are a very good ownership group, but did they reshape the org in like 1 year? Nope. The Rangers had an exceptional farm system that was just staring to rise to the bigs. That gives a team the luxury to spend in free agency and make trades.
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It started when Jon Daniels got here but I'm just afraid of what that owner would have tried to change. However when Texas was going bad they still had a 40 mill payroll. He's operating on half of that.
 
Kbrown said:
I am no scouting guru, but the consensus among the Baseball Prospectus guys in attendance is that they will be approaching 75-80 wins in 2-3 years. And I don't know how people can hate picking a guy with upside like Carlos Correa, but whatever.

The low payroll thing is such an obvious and facile criticism. Ya, let's get a couple of high-paid free agents and still suck all year.

I give it four years before the Texas baseball scene is right side up again.
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I didn't see anyone hate to Correa pick, I was talking about taking an inferior player this year. As for low payroll, smart teams can work around that. I think they have some good pieces to start with.
 
Kbrown said:
You seem like a true diehard, so I won't go after Rangers fans in reference to something you've posted.
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I will agree that we have a ton of bandwagon fans. For most it was probably just a distraction until the cowboys started again. Not me, though. I've been a fan since the 80s when I started playing little league. Probably due to the fact that we lived closer to Arlington and that's what came on the radio.


And my post was just a little fun. I know you guys have more of a baseball past then we do. I just have to have a little fun now because its been a long time coming.
 
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Rev said:
I will agree that we have a ton of bandwagon fans. For most it was probably just a distraction until the cowboys started again. Not me, though. I've been a fan since the 80s when I started playing little league. Probably due to the fact that we lived closer to Arlington and that's what came on the radio.
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Props.

I mean, even I went through a phase as an angsty teenager when I didn't care about any sports whatsoever, but I get the feeling that a large contingent of Rangers fans discovered baseball was a thing like 3 years ago.
 
Deuce said:
I didn't see anyone hate to Correa pick, I was talking about taking an inferior player this year. As for low payroll, smart teams can work around that. I think they have some good pieces to start with.
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Ya, I think I misunderstood.
 
Rev said:
It started when Jon Daniels got here but I'm just afraid of what that owner would have tried to change. However when Texas was going bad they still had a 40 mill payroll. He's operating on half of that.
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And toward the end of McClane's ownership, the Astros had a payroll in the upper half of the league, but finished at the middle to bottom of the division consistently. I just don't see how that is so highly preferable.
 
Kbrown said:
And toward the end of McClane's ownership, the Astros had a payroll in the upper half of the league, but finished at the middle to bottom of the division consistently. I just don't see how that is so highly preferable.
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At least you know they were trying. With a payroll this low its almost like The Major League movie. Just think they owe the fans more. The one quote that I saw from the owner about the payroll was sarcastic so didn't help my view of him either.
 
Rev said:
At least you know they were trying. With a payroll this low its almost like The Major League movie. Just think they owe the fans more. The one quote that I saw from the owner about the payroll was sarcastic so didn't help my view of him either.
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Jim Crane is an asshole. Like I was saying a while back, the only stuff I am upset at has to do with the business side. I just have been impressed with the baseball side of the organization and am willing to endure a crap team for a few years if it means more quickly reaching consistent contention.
 
Kbrown said:
Props.

I mean, even I went through a phase as an angsty teenager when I didn't care about any sports whatsoever, but I get the feeling that a large contingent of Rangers fans discovered baseball was a thing like 3 years ago.
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The baseball equivalent of Jerry Jones is what ran me off from the Rangers for a while. But, I have been a fan going back to the Oddibe McDowell, Ruben Sierra, Charlie Hough and Pete O'Brien days. But, mucho props do go out to Rev because I gave up on them and he hung on during days like you are having to endure now. So, props to you as well. To hell with it, props to everyone.
 
I can't say shit about team leadership...the Mets are getting there, but I thought Alderson would get us there sooner than this. Some of that talent he has acquired and developed will have to be a dealt for some speed and power.
 
I see where the Astros team president and CEO resigned.

You keep your grubby paws off of Nolan.
 
Rev said:
I see where the Astros team president and CEO resigned.

You keep your grubby paws off of Nolan.
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I would love it and it would be a big PR boost, but I don't see it happening. Word is he and Crane don't care for each other, and I get the sense he wants to have input on the baseball side but I'm not sure there's any room for him with Luhnow being a metrics guy and Nolan being as old school as he is.
 
Carp said:
I can't say shit about team leadership...the Mets are getting there, but I thought Alderson would get us there sooner than this. Some of that talent he has acquired and developed will have to be a dealt for some speed and power.
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Who do you think they'll look to move?
 
It would have to be Wheeler or Syndergaard. I am not fond of losing either, but I know that the bats in the system right now are well behind the arms. Outside of Brandon Nimmo and D'Arnaud we do not really have any high end positional players.
 
I take back everything I said about needing a bat, looks like we might sign Ankiel.

GSM
 
Kbrown said:
I would love it and it would be a big PR boost, but I don't see it happening. Word is he and Crane don't care for each other, and I get the sense he wants to have input on the baseball side but I'm not sure there's any room for him with Luhnow being a metrics guy and Nolan being as old school as he is.
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Yeah. That probably wouldn't work since that's what's going on with Nolan and JD.
 
Rev said:
Yeah. That probably wouldn't work since that's what's going on with Nolan and JD.
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Yeah, and they need to stop that shit right frickin' now.
 
I am rooting for an OF in the draft this year...Hunter Renfroe from Miss St is mentioned with the Mets quite a bit.
 
Carp said:
I take back everything I said about needing a bat, looks like we might sign Ankiel.

GSM
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Try to take an extra base on that bastard when he's in the OF though. I triple dog dare you. One of the most impressive arms I've ever seen from the OF. I hope he can hook up with some team and get some playing time for a couple more years just to see a few more Ankiel OF assists.
 
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