Archer - Mock draft: Cowboys upgrade D line

Hear me out...if we draft Manziel Jerry will find a way to get him and Romo on the field at the same time.

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Simpleton said:
Tuitt would be a fine first rounder, he could play a little DT and strongside DE, has great size and has been productive, what's the issue?

Pet cat of mine in the second is Aaron Donald from Pitt.
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I think Donald is going to end up being a first rounder. I'd take him over Tuitt.
 
boozeman said:
I think Donald is going to end up being a first rounder. I'd take him over Tuitt.
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He's only about 6-0 and probably not even 290, I don't think any 3-4 team will take him that high and I'm guessing only a team that runs primarily a 1-gap 4-3 would even consider him in the first. I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the 1st, I wouldn't even be surprised if we took him if we keep this scheme since he's a perfect fit for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he drops to the 2nd either because of his size.
 
Simpleton said:
He's only about 6-0 and probably not even 290, I don't think any 3-4 team will take him that high and I'm guessing only a team that runs primarily a 1-gap 4-3 would even consider him in the first. I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the 1st, I wouldn't even be surprised if we took him if we keep this scheme since he's a perfect fit for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he drops to the 2nd either because of his size.
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Yeah, the second is where he's projected now, I just see him being a guy who rises into the bottom of the first at least as teams really start looking at how he plays.

In most years, yeah, his size drops him. But I think a lot of teams...well the smart ones anyways...are not sticking to the tried and true conventions about size. If the guy can play, a smart team will take someone like him.
 
boozeman said:
Yeah, the second is where he's projected now, I just see him being a guy who rises into the bottom of the first at least as teams really start looking at how he plays.

In most years, yeah, his size drops him. But I think a lot of teams...well the smart ones anyways...are not sticking to the tried and true conventions about size. If the guy can play, a smart team will take someone like him.
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I agree to an extent but he's really small, this isn't a 6-2/6-3, 290-295 lb guy that a 3-4 team is taking when the supposed prototype is a 6-5/6-6, 300-310 lb guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he measured in at 6-0, 285 or maybe even a little less, he could still go in the first if the right team is there but I don't think he has appeal to at least half of the teams in the league, in the first round at least.

It depends where our pick ends up, I could see him making it to like the teens in the 2nd round, mabye not to the 20's if we miraculously win the division.
 
ravidubey said:
Agreed. Dallas could use an upgrade at every single position except kicker (unless they can't re-sign Bailey), center, and probably left tackle.
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Probably left tackle?
 
Rev said:
Probably left tackle?
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No doubt. He has had a pro bowl season. I think we have found our long term answer.
 
L.T. Fan said:
I always have hope. That's all that is available with the existing scheme.
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OK. Was just wondering and don't want to turn it into one of those debates again.
 
L.T. Fan said:
Oh I was just venting. I would apologize but ..............nay.
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Old people don't have to apologize. They can say whatever. I'm looking forward to being a very confusing racist who mixes up his stereotypes and can't get his slurs right when I'm 70.
 
70 year old Clay: "God damn black people, go back to China and live in your wigwams with your whiskey and potatoes!"
 
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