Smitty
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Interesting exercise: I asked ChatGPT to come up with a criteria for evaluating NFL drafting success, making it weighted on different factors, so we're not just talking about who got the most pro bowl selections, who got the most starts out of picks, etc, and then to rank the top 5 and bottom 5 drafting teams of the past 20 years. Here is what it gave me....
The window and the basic problem
I would evaluate the 20 drafts from 2006 through 2025, but I would not pretend every class is equally settled:
- 2006–2021: full weight.
- 2022: 85%.
- 2023: 65%.
- 2024: 40%.
- 2025: 20%.
That keeps recent success from being ignored without declaring a one-year contributor a proven hit. A current 20-year analysis using player value over expectation similarly tapers the four newest classes because careers have not had equal time to develop.
The central question is not, “How many good players did the team draft?” It is:
How much NFL value did the team obtain compared with what should reasonably have been expected from the exact picks it possessed?
That matters because Baltimore picking 25th every year cannot be judged by the same raw-output standard as Cleveland repeatedly picking in the top ten.
My proposed Drafting Quality Index
I would give each team a composite score built from five components.
1. Premium-pick performance: 35%
This covers picks 1–100, but with declining importance:
- Picks 1–10: maximum weight
- Picks 11–32: 85%
- Round 2: 65%
- Round 3: 50%
For every selection, calculate:
actual career value − expected career value for that exact draft slot
A No. 4 pick who becomes a solid eight-year starter may be useful but still slightly disappointing. A player of identical quality taken 75th is an outstanding selection.
The expected-value curve is steepest near the top: one recent model estimates approximately 47.4 units of expected career value at pick No. 1, 31.7 at No. 32, 14.9 at No. 100 and only 6.4 at No. 200.
This receives the largest weight because missing on a top-ten pick costs much more than missing on pick 224. It represents both a lost opportunity to acquire a premium player and the forfeiture of unusually valuable draft capital.
2. Elite-player generation: 25%
Teams should receive substantial additional credit for drafting genuinely difference-making players:
- Hall of Fame or realistic Hall of Fame trajectory
- First-team All-Pro
- Sustained top-tier performance
- Franchise quarterback
- Multi-year Pro Bowl or equivalent high-level starter
This is necessary because an average-surplus formula can sometimes prefer a collection of mildly positive late-round picks over one transformational selection. But Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Micah Parsons or Aaron Donald changes a franchise far more than several quality special-teamers.
The underlying player-value measurement should combine:
- Weighted Approximate Value
- Years and games as a starter
- All-Pro selections
- Peak performance
- Longevity
- Positional context
AV alone is imperfect and can reward mere accumulation, so awards and peak performance have to supplement it.
3. First-round hit and bust profile: 20%
This component explicitly measures whether the team handles its most consequential decisions properly.
A first-rounder would be classified approximately as:
- Major hit: elite player or long-term high-end starter
- Hit: reliable multiyear starter worthy of the selection range
- Marginal: contributor but below reasonable slot expectation
- Bust: little meaningful value, especially before completing the rookie contract
Busts in the top ten get the largest penalty. Rest-of-first-round misses still matter, but not equally.
This is separate from total surplus because repeated first-round competence should count even when a team does not uncover a Hall of Famer. Green Bay, Baltimore and Dallas have generally been good at coming away with real starters when they spend first-round capital.
Historical results demonstrate how difficult premium drafting actually is. From 2006–2020, approximately 14% of top-ten picks reached “star” level, while 28.7% were classified as busts. The rest of the first round had a lower star rate and a 35.5% bust rate.
4. Middle-round roster building: 15%
This covers rounds 2–5 and asks whether a team repeatedly produces:
- Starting offensive linemen
- Starting defensive backs
- No. 2 receivers
- Rotational defensive linemen
- Starting linebackers
- Useful tight ends and running backs
- Players earning meaningful second contracts
This is where a scouting organization demonstrates repeatability. One fifth-round superstar might involve tremendous evaluation, but it also contains substantial luck. Producing two or three useful players in rounds 2–5 almost every year is a more sustainable organizational skill.
5. Late-round success: 5%
Rounds 6–7 should count, but modestly.
Credit should depend on outcome:
- Franchise player or star: substantial surplus credit
- Multiyear starter: strong credit
- Useful backup or core special-teamer: small positive credit
- Brief roster appearance: essentially neutral
- Never becomes a contributor: little penalty, because that is the normal result
This addresses your point exactly: consistently finding NFL players in the seventh round is evidence of good scouting, but it cannot outweigh repeatedly blowing first-round picks.
The historical bust rate for rounds 6–7 is roughly 93%, so simply failing to find a player there should barely count against a team.
What I would not include
I would not directly use:
- Team wins or championships
- Free-agent acquisitions
- Undrafted free agents
- Whether the player remained with the drafting team for his entire career
- Subjective post-draft grades
- Production from picks acquired by trading a drafted player years later
A team deserves scouting credit for identifying and selecting a player even if it later mishandles his contract. Coaching and player development cannot be completely separated from drafting, but team success itself would introduce too many unrelated variables.
I would attribute the pick to the team that actually selected the player, not the club originally owning the selection.
Best drafting teams, 2006–2025
1. Green Bay Packers
Green Bay is my best overall drafting organization because its record is the most complete rather than being dependent on one short golden period.
Important hits include:
- Greg Jennings, Round 2
- Jordy Nelson, Round 2
- Josh Sitton, Round 4
- T.J. Lang, Round 4
- Clay Matthews, late Round 1
- Randall Cobb, Round 2
- David Bakhtiari, Round 4
- Davante Adams, Round 2
- Corey Linsley, Round 5
- Kenny Clark, late Round 1
- Aaron Jones, Round 5
- Jaire Alexander, Round 1
- Rashan Gary, Round 1
- Elgton Jenkins, Round 2
- Jordan Love, late Round 1
Green Bay has been particularly exceptional on the offensive line. A current slot-adjusted analysis rates the Packers first in overall offensive drafting and best in offensive-line value over expectation; it also rates them first in rounds 4–5.
There have been serious misses—Justin Harrell, Derek Sherrod, Datone Jones and others—but the Packers repeatedly:
- Hit on late first-rounders.
- Produce starters in rounds 2–5.
- Find premium offensive players without premium draft positions.
- Successfully identify and develop quarterbacks.
That combination puts them slightly ahead of Baltimore.
2. Baltimore Ravens
Baltimore might be No. 1 under a model giving even more weight to elite players and premium-pick reliability.
Major selections include:
- Haloti Ngata, No. 12
- Marshal Yanda, Round 3
- Joe Flacco, mid-Round 1
- Ray Rice, Round 2
- Torrey Smith, Round 2
- C.J. Mosley, mid-Round 1
- Ronnie Stanley, No. 6
- Marlon Humphrey, mid-Round 1
- Lamar Jackson, No. 32
- Mark Andrews, Round 3
- Orlando Brown Jr., Round 3
- Patrick Queen, late Round 1
- Justin Madubuike, Round 3
- Kyle Hamilton, mid-Round 1
- Tyler Linderbaum, late Round 1
- Zay Flowers, late Round 1
An earlier slot-adjusted AV study covering 2000–2020 ranked Baltimore first in the league, powered particularly by Yanda and Jackson.
The Ravens’ advantages are:
- Very few catastrophic early-round mistakes.
- Excellent results near the end of Round 1.
- Strong offensive-line and defensive-back evaluation.
- Several stars found on Day 2.
- Lamar at No. 32, one of the greatest combinations of premium impact and selection value in the period.
Their curious weakness has been off-ball linebacker value in one current positional model, but the complete portfolio remains outstanding.
3. Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City’s ranking is not merely “they drafted Mahomes.”
The portfolio includes:
- Brandon Flowers, Round 2
- Jamaal Charles, Round 3
- Eric Berry, No. 5
- Justin Houston, Round 3
- Dontari Poe, Round 1
- Travis Kelce, Round 3
- Dee Ford, late Round 1
- Marcus Peters, late Round 1
- Chris Jones, Round 2
- Tyreek Hill, Round 5
- Patrick Mahomes, No. 10
- Juan Thornhill, Round 2
- Creed Humphrey, Round 2
- Trey Smith, Round 6
- Nick Bolton, Round 2
- Trent McDuffie, late Round 1
- George Karlaftis, late Round 1
- Isiah Pacheco, Round 7
- Rashee Rice, Round 2
They have done virtually everything a drafting team can do:
- Landed an all-time quarterback without picking first.
- Found a Hall of Fame-level tight end in Round 3.
- Found elite speed and production in Round 5.
- Built offensive lines in rounds 2 and 6.
- Regularly converted late-first-round selections into starters.
Kansas City ranks first in current slot-adjusted Round 2 performance, an especially meaningful category because the second round still contains legitimate star potential but comes with a bust rate above 50%.
The pre-Reid portion was less consistent, keeping the Chiefs below Green Bay and Baltimore, but the high-end return is extraordinary.
4. Dallas Cowboys
Dallas is probably the NFL’s most underappreciated drafting organization because its postseason failures obscure how much talent it has selected.
Major hits:
- Anthony Spencer, late Round 1
- Mike Jenkins, late Round 1
- Sean Lee, Round 2
- Dez Bryant, late Round 1
- Tyron Smith, No. 9
- DeMarco Murray, Round 3
- Travis Frederick, late Round 1
- Zack Martin, mid-Round 1
- DeMarcus Lawrence, Round 2
- Byron Jones, late Round 1
- Dak Prescott, Round 4
- Ezekiel Elliott, No. 4
- Jaylon Smith, Round 2
- Michael Gallup, Round 3
- Tony Pollard, Round 4
- CeeDee Lamb, mid-Round 1
- Trevon Diggs, Round 2
- Micah Parsons, No. 12
- Tyler Smith, late Round 1
- DaRon Bland, Round 5
- Jake Ferguson, Round 4
Dallas’s premium-round batting average is the major argument:
- Tyron Smith
- Frederick
- Martin
- Byron Jones
- Elliott
- Lamb
- Parsons
- Tyler Smith
Even several supposedly controversial first-round decisions became high-level players. Dallas also found a franchise quarterback in Round 4 and an All-Pro corner in Round 5.
A current positional model places Dallas fourth in offensive drafting, while older AV-surplus research also had the Cowboys comfortably above average.
Taco Charlton and Morris Claiborne were consequential misses, and some recent defensive selections remain unresolved. Nevertheless, Dallas has been remarkably good at converting first- and second-day capital into actual NFL starters.
5. Seattle Seahawks
Seattle gets the fifth spot, narrowly over New Orleans and Pittsburgh, because its peak produced one of the greatest clusters of surplus draft value in modern NFL history.
The foundational run:
- Russell Okung, Round 1
- Earl Thomas, Round 1
- Golden Tate, Round 2
- Kam Chancellor, Round 5
- K.J. Wright, Round 4
- Richard Sherman, Round 5
- Bobby Wagner, Round 2
- Russell Wilson, Round 3
- Bruce Irvin, mid-Round 1
- Tyler Lockett, Round 3
- Frank Clark, Round 2
- D.K. Metcalf, Round 2
More recently:
- Riq Woolen, Round 5
- Charles Cross, Round 1
- Devon Witherspoon, No. 5
- Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Round 1
- Boye Mafe, Round 2
The 2010–2012 classes essentially built a championship roster through the draft. A current 20-year analysis identifies Seattle as the best overall return-on-investment drafting team and the best defensive-back drafting team. It rates Seattle’s 2011 and 2012 classes as the best classes in the league in those respective years.
Why only fifth? The drafts from roughly 2013 through 2020 were far less dependable, particularly along the offensive line and in the first round. Seattle had an astonishing peak, whereas Green Bay and Baltimore were more consistent across the whole period.
Just outside the top five
New Orleans: The 2006 and 2017 classes were magnificent, with Jahri Evans, Marques Colston, Cameron Jordan, Terron Armstead, Michael Thomas, Marshon Lattimore, Ryan Ramczyk, Alvin Kamara and Trey Hendrickson. New Orleans rates exceptionally well at receiver, defensive end and in Round 3. The Marcus Davenport/Peyton Turner era and several thin classes keep the Saints sixth for me.
Pittsburgh: Very strong long-term results with Lawrence Timmons, LaMarr Woodley, Antonio Brown, Cameron Heyward, David DeCastro, Le’Veon Bell, Stephon Tuitt, T.J. Watt, Alex Highsmith and George Pickens. Wide-receiver scouting is famous, though recent first-round and secondary results have been uneven.
Philadelphia: Fletcher Cox, Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz, Jordan Mailata, Dallas Goedert, Josh Sweat, Jalen Hurts, DeVonta Smith, Landon Dickerson, Jalen Carter and Cooper DeJean. Jason Kelce was a 2011 sixth-round masterpiece. Philadelphia’s weaker mid-2010s stretch keeps it outside the five, but its current trajectory is upward.
Worst drafting teams, 2006–2025
1. Las Vegas/Oakland Raiders
This is the clearest result.
Premium misses include:
- JaMarcus Russell, No. 1
- Darrius Heyward-Bey, No. 7
- Rolando McClain, No. 8
- D.J. Hayden, No. 12
- Gareon Conley, No. 24
- Clelin Ferrell, No. 4
- Johnathan Abram, No. 27
- Damon Arnette, No. 19
- Alex Leatherwood, No. 17
- Henry Ruggs, No. 12, whose career ended after a fatal criminal incident
There were genuine hits:
- Khalil Mack
- Amari Cooper
- Derek Carr
- Gabe Jackson
- Maxx Crosby
- Kolton Miller
- Brock Bowers, provisionally
But the number and severity of first-round errors are overwhelming. One current 20-year analysis rates the Raiders worst in defensive-back drafting and worst among late first-round selections. An earlier AV-surplus study ranked them 31st, ahead of only Cleveland, and identified Russell as their largest negative.
The Raiders did not merely fail to find enough late-round gems. They repeatedly spent premium capital on players who produced almost nothing.
2. Cleveland Browns
Cleveland has more excellent selections than its reputation suggests:
- Joe Thomas
- Alex Mack
- Joel Bitonio
- Myles Garrett
- Denzel Ward
- Nick Chubb
- Baker Mayfield, at least a legitimate NFL quarterback
- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
But the failed premium picks are staggering:
- Brady Quinn
- Brandon Weeden
- Trent Richardson
- Justin Gilbert
- Johnny Manziel
- Barkevious Mingo
- Corey Coleman
- Cameron Erving
- Danny Shelton, relative to slot
- Numerous second-round failures during repeated rebuilds
The Browns possessed unusually valuable draft capital for much of this period. Therefore, merely emerging with some good players is not enough. They needed to produce considerably more.
The 2000–2020 AV-surplus study ranked Cleveland dead last and identified Gilbert, Richardson and Coleman as its three most damaging selections. Current positional analysis also places Cleveland near the bottom at quarterback, receiver and rounds 4–5.
Cleveland narrowly avoids last because Joe Thomas, Bitonio, Garrett, Ward and Chubb represent a better collection of premium successes than the Raiders assembled.
3. New York Jets
The Jets have drafted some outstanding players:
- D’Brickashaw Ferguson
- Nick Mangold
- Darrelle Revis
- David Harris
- Muhammad Wilkerson
- Sheldon Richardson
- Jamal Adams
- Quinnen Williams
- Sauce Gardner
- Garrett Wilson
But the offensive failure is historic:
- Mark Sanchez did not justify the trade-up and No. 5 selection
- Geno Smith became a good quarterback only years after leaving
- Sam Darnold at No. 3
- Zach Wilson at No. 2
- Christian Hackenberg in Round 2
- Stephen Hill in Round 2
- Devin Smith in Round 2
- Denzel Mims in Round 2
- Jace Amaro in Round 2
- Vernon Gholston at No. 6
The Jets’ problem is not an inability to scout defense. It is the inability to build an offense and, especially, identify quarterbacks.
A current 20-year positional ranking has the Jets:
- 32nd in overall offensive drafting
- 32nd at quarterback
- Last or near last in several additional categories
It identifies Gholston as one of the five largest draft busts of the period based on value below pick expectation.
The repeated quarterback misses are disproportionately damaging because they occurred with premium picks and repeatedly restarted the franchise.
4. Jacksonville Jaguars
Jacksonville has found several excellent players:
- Maurice Jones-Drew
- Marcedes Lewis
- Eugene Monroe
- Telvin Smith
- Allen Robinson
- Jalen Ramsey
- Yannick Ngakoue
- Josh Allen/Hines-Allen
- Trevor Lawrence
- Brian Thomas Jr., provisionally
But the misses include an extraordinary amount of early capital:
- Derrick Harvey, No. 8 after trading up
- Tyson Alualu, No. 10—long career but poor value at that slot
- Blaine Gabbert, No. 10
- Justin Blackmon, No. 5
- Luke Joeckel, No. 2
- Blake Bortles, No. 3
- Dante Fowler, No. 3
- Taven Bryan, Round 1
- C.J. Henderson, No. 9
- K’Lavon Chaisson, Round 1
- Travon Walker over Aidan Hutchinson remains debatable rather than a bust, but has not yet produced the expected No. 1-overall separation
Jacksonville has spent an enormous amount of time near the top of the draft. That creates a much higher expected return than the franchise actually received.
One older slot-adjusted study ranked Jacksonville only 25th because its window still included some earlier successes. The accumulation of additional premium opportunities without corresponding franchise improvement pushes the Jaguars into my bottom five.
5. New York Giants
This was the closest decision, with Arizona also strongly considered.
The Giants’ hits include:
- Hakeem Nicks
- Jason Pierre-Paul
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Landon Collins
- Saquon Barkley
- Dexter Lawrence
- Andrew Thomas
- Xavier McKinney
- Malik Nabers, provisionally
But their overall roster-building record has been extremely thin:
- Aaron Ross and Prince Amukamara were serviceable rather than major surplus successes
- David Wilson’s career was tragically shortened
- Ereck Flowers was a major top-ten miss
- Eli Apple underperformed at No. 10
- Evan Engram became better after leaving
- DeAndre Baker failed
- Kadarius Toney failed
- Daniel Jones never justified No. 6
- Multiple middle-round offensive-line and defensive-back selections produced little
The Giants’ distinguishing problem is that unsuccessful first-rounders were rarely offset by excellent Day 2 or Day 3 classes. They repeatedly lacked inexpensive homegrown depth.
Current slot-adjusted analysis places the Giants:
- Worst in offensive-line drafting
- Worst in Round 3
- Worst in rounds 6–7
- Near the bottom of overall offensive drafting
That breadth of weakness puts them fifth-worst even though they have selected several real stars.
Arizona narrowly misses the bottom five
Arizona has a credible bottom-five case because of Matt Leinart, Levi Brown, Jonathan Cooper, Robert Nkemdiche, Josh Rosen and Isaiah Simmons relative to draft position.
The saving selections are substantial:
- Calais Campbell
- Patrick Peterson
- Tyrann Mathieu
- David Johnson
- Budda Baker
- Kyler Murray
- Trey McBride
- Paris Johnson Jr., provisionally
A current model rates Arizona worst on top-ten selections, which is a very damaging distinction. I nevertheless put the Giants slightly lower because Arizona has been better at finding defensive stars outside the opening portion of Round 1.
Final rankings
Best
- Green Bay Packers
- Baltimore Ravens
- Kansas City Chiefs
- Dallas Cowboys
- Seattle Seahawks
Worst
- Las Vegas/Oakland Raiders
- Cleveland Browns
- New York Jets
- Jacksonville Jaguars
- New York Giants
My confidence level
I am highly confident that Green Bay and Baltimore belong in the top group, and that the Raiders, Browns and Jets belong in the bottom group.
The debatable portions are:
- Kansas City, Dallas, Seattle, New Orleans and Pittsburgh competing for spots 3–7.
- Jacksonville, the Giants and Arizona competing for spots 4–6 from the bottom.
The most important conclusion is that the best drafting teams are not simply the clubs with the most famous late-round steals. They are the organizations that combine:
- A high premium-pick batting average
- Few catastrophic top-ten misses
- Periodic elite players
- Consistent rounds 2–5 roster construction
- Occasional enormous late-round surplus
By that broader standard, Green Bay is my No. 1 and the Raiders are my No. 32.

