2026 Cowboys Draft Chatter Thread

Simpleton said:
I don't think he's played slot at all, maybe a handful of snaps here and there. Ultimately I'm also trusting Parker with whatever we do in the secondary but it'd be a meh pick.
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Why are you blindly trusting Parker?

I get it he is the new thing, but goddamn we got dorks like Locke calling numbers and shit.
 
Simpleton said:
I don't think he's played slot at all, maybe a handful of snaps here and there. Ultimately I'm also trusting Parker with whatever we do in the secondary but it'd be a meh pick.
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Yeah, I can't see myself getting pumped about getting Hood. I'd be more excited by Ponds, Scott, Chris Johnson. And presumably that means we should try to trade down before taking Hood at 20.
 
boozeman said:
Why are you blindly trusting Parker?

I get it he is the new thing, but goddamn we got dorks like Locke calling numbers and shit.
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Because he turned two high picks into immediate Pro Bowlers, plus a 3rd in Mukuba who was a very solid starter almost immediately.

Could be misguided but I trust him with the secondary.

The front 7? Who knows.
 
What these guys do at 12 relative to moving up or back is going to be fascinating because the top of the class is really cut and dry for the most part.

You know that Mendoza, Love and most likely Tate/Mauigoa will be gone in the top 11, that's 4 offensive players.

You have Reese, Bailey, Delane, Styles, Downs and Bain as the clear top 6 on defense, with potentially McCoy as a 7th depending on what teams think of him medically.

That's either 10 or 11 players, so the only way one of those 7 (or maybe even just 6) drops to 12 is if one or two other offensive players go in the top 11. There's a chance someone takes Fano, maybe a team falls in love with Tyson, Lemon, or Sadiq, but if I had to bet I don't think two of them will go in the top 11, and possibly not even one if we get unlucky.

Conversely, it's almost a certainty that at least 1-2 of the top 6 defensive players (Bain and/or Downs) will be available at 9, maybe even one of them could still be there at 10-11.

So the point is, unless you see something screwy happening in the top 8ish picks like both Mauigoa/Fano are gone, or Tate/Tyson, these guys had better be prepared to both move up once you get around 9-10, and also have things sorted out to possibly move down once they're on the clock.

I like Thieneman plenty but getting caught with your pants down at 12 and taking him, Mesidor, etc. is really kind of unacceptable when you can see the scenario where the board is wiped out coming a mile away. It's unacceptable most of the time, but especially so this year given our needs and how the board looks, and even doubly so if McCoy isn't a real consideration at 12.
 
Simpleton said:
What these guys do at 12 relative to moving up or back is going to be fascinating because the top of the class is really cut and dry for the most part.

You know that Mendoza, Love and most likely Tate/Mauigoa will be gone in the top 11, that's 4 offensive players.

You have Reese, Bailey, Delane, Styles, Downs and Bain as the clear top 6 on defense, with potentially McCoy as a 7th depending on what teams think of him medically.

That's either 10 or 11 players, so the only way one of those 7 (or maybe even just 6) drops to 12 is if one or two other offensive players go in the top 11. There's a chance someone takes Fano, maybe a team falls in love with Tyson, Lemon, or Sadiq, but if I had to bet I don't think two of them will go in the top 11, and possibly not even one if we get unlucky.

Conversely, it's almost a certainty that at least 1-2 of the top 6 defensive players (Bain and/or Downs) will be available at 9, maybe even one of them could still be there at 10-11.

So the point is, unless you see something screwy happening in the top 8ish picks like both Mauigoa/Fano are gone, or Tate/Tyson, these guys had better be prepared to both move up once you get around 9-10, and also have things sorted out to possibly move down once they're on the clock.

I like Thieneman plenty but getting caught with your pants down at 12 and taking him, Mesidor, etc. is really kind of unacceptable when you can see the scenario where the board is wiped out coming a mile away. It's unacceptable most of the time, but especially so this year given our needs and how the board looks, and even doubly so if McCoy isn't a real consideration at 12.
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So you either draft the next guy on your board answering a need like we drafted the not-spectacular Greg Ellis in1998 or you find someone drafting after 12 who’s in love with the best remaining _______ and trade down with them.

Then you trade down again— same logic except now it’s someone who wants Cooper, with the late firsts you take your pick of the top LB’s and with the extra pick or picks you clean up at CB in a corner rich draft. Johnson and Ponds are going to be good for a long time and not far behind Delane or McCoy.

In three years no one’s going to think of either as much better or worse and you’ll have made out because you’ll have two instead of one.

Even if you get less than ideal trade value like in 2013, at least you still got something extra plus a beast like Travis Frederick who some thought pre-draft might even slip into the 3rd round.

Same principal. Trade down from 20 to 31 and get an extra 3rd, even if it’s not that great a 3rd because the difference in talent between 20 and 31 isn’t worth as much to a depth-starved team like Dallas as another potential starter in that 3rd round pick.
 
NoDak said:
Hello. Are you new here? This place still cries about draft picks we made 30 years ago.
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Yeah, though it’s usually because we missed a Hall of Famer like Randy Moss, Terrell Suggs, TJ Watt. Then people look at Greg Ellis, Terence Newman, and Taco Charlton with rage forever.

In Charlton’s case it was justified.

Today I don’t think Delane, Downs, or McCoy have the same kind of regret potential. Maybe McCoy because of his ball-hawkish nature.
 
Really though, is Hood that good?

To me there's almost a feeling creeping in that because we have two picks -- and one just outside the top ten -- that the second one is devalued a little. But imagine if we only had the second one... that's still a top 20 pick and you'd expect a really top player there. Just doesn't feel to me like Hood is that guy, but more like a need pick.

But I wouldn't doubt these reports because they've been saying the team liked Hood more than most for a while now. I thought that meant more after a trade down a few to several spots than at 20, though.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
But I wouldn't doubt these reports because they've been saying the team liked Hood more than most for a while now. I thought that meant more after a trade down a few to several spots than at 20, though.
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Not sure about the reports. The corners after McCoy and Delane seem to have done a ton of shifting because the media people have been off. I think Hood just sort of got the third best corner by default for media people. I wouldn't be shocked if Hood fell to the second or went top 20.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
To me there's almost a feeling creeping in that because we have two picks -- and one just outside the top ten -- that the second one is devalued a little.
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Yeah I get you on this. If we nail the first pick it's sort of like I think I could feel ok with Hood at 20.

But truth is there are 2 safeties I'd rather have. There is probably pass rushers I would rather have. Hell I think there are LBers I would rather have. I feel like I've been conditioned to be ok with Hood at 20 by "draft people" but I think Rodriguez or Hill for example would be a bigger impact on this defense than Hood.

Honestly taking Hood at 20 feels a little like taking Faulk at 20. Ok he will play and I don't think he will do anything to hurt us. But I don't feel like he is going to be an impact player at corner. Someone that will be solid for 4 years and then probably not be worth resigning.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Not sure about the reports. The corners after McCoy and Delane seem to have done a ton of shifting because the media people have been off. I think Hood just sort of got the third best corner by default for media people. I wouldn't be shocked if Hood fell to the second or went top 20.
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But I mean the local DFW guys have been saying the Cowboys (for whatever reason) really like Hood.

Now as Simp rightly said, that could be one guy hears this from a questionable source and then they all repeat it, because it's a pretty incestuous group. So who knows how true it really is. But that's what they've been saying for I'd guess a couple of weeks now.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
But I mean the local DFW guys have been saying the Cowboys (for whatever reason) really like Hood.

Now as Simp rightly said, that could be one guy hears this from a questionable source and then they all repeat it, because it's a pretty incestuous group. So who knows how true it really is. But that's what they've been saying for I'd guess a couple of weeks now.
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Yeah I listen to their stuff. I find it to be highly unreliable when you're talking about who we will draft. I don't doubt people like Hood. I think he is a likeable player. But that doesn't mean they love Hood at 20.

I can't twist my brain into knots trying to predict what will happen with the Cowboys on draft day. But the 105.3 The Fan guys are almost always wrong this far out from the draft. I guess we will see.
 
Cotton said:
I hope not. I like the player, but not at 20. Again, not having that second is going to hurt. It seems the second round is prime real estate in this draft.
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I mean I could fill a lot of needs in the second if you gave me a bunch of picks there. But I feel like I'm that way every year. When I have a first round pick I want a difference maker. Otherwise I might as well try to just keep trading down and accumulating picks. Even if it's all the way into the second round.

Hood is the classic type I'd be happy with in the second round. I don't think he is likely to be a bust. But I think he will have a long and not spectacular career (assuming health which feels like a crapshoot).

And that might be ok at 20. It's better than drafting a Mazi or Taco who is just an outright bust. But I feel like I can do better. Give me McNeal-Warren or Thieneman there and I feel like they will have a legit impact.
 
None of these dummies were on Booker last year this early so I wouldn't believe much they say.

Most knew about McMillan but that wasn't just these Cowboys types, it was talked about by most of the media scout types from McShay to Brugler, etc.

If I remember correctly Harris in particular was insistent that we loved Simmons at 12 basically all the way up to draft day.
 
Simpleton said:
None of these dummies were on Booker last year this early so I wouldn't believe much they say.

Most knew about McMillan but that wasn't just these Cowboys types, it was talked about by most of the media scout types from McShay to Brugler, etc.

If I remember correctly Harris in particular was insistent that we loved Simmons at 12 basically all the way up to draft day.
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Harris seems wrong a lot. Pretty sure he was adamant Schottenheimer wouldn't be the choice, among other things. Maybe he's improving with more experience, who knows. But he hasn't been very accurate on things.
 
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