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This is the part that should stand out.

- Cowboys were pretty vanilla as expected on both sides of the ball. For example, a lot of quick game on offense and not a whole lot of movement from pass rushers, with Donovan Ezeiruaku pretty much exclusively bull rushing and not utilizing any pass rush moves, at least from what I saw.
 
I watched the redzone portion and zipped through the main part of the practice they put up on DC.com and it didn't look as bad as I expected based on the reports. It's hard to tell from the ground angle camera but I'm not sure it was the complete domination people claimed. Part of the problem on offense is Grier played a lot when Milton went out and he's obviously not good. But our starting redzone offense with Dak seemed okay. The biggest problem I saw is our secondary with scraps like Booth and others looks pretty terrible.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
I watched the redzone portion and zipped through the main part of the practice they put up on DC.com and it didn't look as bad as I expected based on the reports. It's hard to tell from the ground angle camera but I'm not sure it was the complete domination people claimed. Part of the problem on offense is Grier played a lot when Milton went out and he's obviously not good. But our starting redzone offense with Dak seemed okay. The biggest problem I saw is our secondary with scraps like Booth and others looks pretty terrible.
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I thought the same thing, our running game was struggling but I didn't notice the Rams running game completely killing it either. What's posted on the site isn't all-encompassing, but from that and the social media clips I only saw one big run on each side (Kyren for them, Javonte for us).

Tyler Smith was also sitting out most of the reps on the offensive side.

And defensively it seemed like most of the passing plays were against Booth or one of the other schlub DB's. I think I saw Hooker give up a big play on a bit of a misdirection, but aside from that almost every downfield passing play was on Booth, Pride or someone of that ilk.
 
Simpleton said:
I thought the same thing, our running game was struggling but I didn't notice the Rams running game completely killing it either. What's posted on the site isn't all-encompassing, but from that and the social media clips I only saw one big run on each side (Kyren for them, Javonte for us).

Tyler Smith was also sitting out most of the reps on the offensive side.

And defensively it seemed like most of the passing plays were against Booth or one of the other schlub DB's. I think I saw Hooker give up a big play on a bit of a misdirection, but aside from that almost every downfield passing play was on Booth, Pride or someone of that ilk.
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Yeah, you know Smith being out was a huge part. When I watched it was pretty much all Bass or Hoffman in there.

Also, I'm sure it's a factor that the Rams have had stable systems on both sides of the ball and we're new on both sides. It'll take the players time to get this new stuff, especially against a 34 front they haven't seen (like BS said), plus time for the coaches to figure out which players can do what. To me Dak already looks better than he did the first week, so that should happen for more players as we go... except the ones who just suck like too many of our corners.

Looking forward to the game when actual football is played and we can judge things a little better.
 
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Also, I'm sure it's a factor that the Rams have had stable systems on both sides of the ball and we're new on both sides.
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That's a legit point.

But there are so many variables this season that I'm going to assume we're not good until proven otherwise.

At the very least our depth is kind of shit so injuries have a strong potential to derail the team.
 
Genghis Khan said:
That's a legit point.

But there are so many variables this season that I'm going to assume we're not good until proven otherwise.

At the very least our depth is kind of shit so injuries have a strong potential to derail the team.
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Yep, I'm worried about our defense especially. It wasn't good last year and I'm not sure what makes it better this year. Other than edge rusher I'm not sure we're good anywhere.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Yep, I'm worried about our defense especially. It wasn't good last year and I'm not sure what makes it better this year. Other than edge rusher I'm not sure we're good anywhere.
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I think our LB group is going to be one of the best we've had here in a long time.

You usually don't need more than 2 LB's on the field and I'm comfortable with Murray, Sanborn, Liufau and Overshown once he's back all being starting caliber guys. I'm hopeful on James as well.

But yea, the defense is similar to what it's been for a while now, dominant edge/speed rush, but you need to stop the run to get there. The defense was pretty decent last year once Parsons and Bland came back so I'm hopeful, but it's all going to come down to how well they do against the run.

If they can be average vs. the run I think it'll be a top 10ish unit, if they're terrible, well...you know.
 
Simpleton said:
I think our LB group is going to be one of the best we've had here in a long time.

You usually don't need more than 2 LB's on the field and I'm comfortable with Murray, Sanborn, Liufau and Overshown once he's back all being starting caliber guys. I'm hopeful on James as well.

But yea, the defense is similar to what it's been for a while now, dominant edge/speed rush, but you need to stop the run to get there. The defense was pretty decent last year once Parsons and Bland came back so I'm hopeful, but it's all going to come down to how well they do against the run.

If they can be average vs. the run I think it'll be a top 10ish unit, if they're terrible, well...you know.
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Run D will always be meh unless they find a legit 1T to clog it up. IMO it is an absolute necessity with a Glover type undersized 3T (Osa) that has been glossed over by management and every fuckin coach that has ran in and out of here for a long time.
 
Bipo said:
Run D will always be meh unless they find a legit 1T to clog it up. IMO it is an absolute necessity with a Glover type undersized 3T (Osa) that has been glossed over by management and every fuckin coach that has ran in and out of here for a long time.
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Its not a shiny piece of the defense.
 
Bipo said:
Run D will always be meh unless they find a legit 1T to clog it up. IMO it is an absolute necessity with a Glover type undersized 3T (Osa) that has been glossed over by management and every fuckin coach that has ran in and out of here for a long time.
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They tried with Mazi, but he's a dullard and then they compounded things by dicking around with his weight. If he had a Zimmer-type DC asking him to play the role he played last year I think we'd all be fine with him.

Still underwhelmed for a first rounder, but he'd be a passable enough starter, kind of like LVE.

But I think he's basically done here with how things have gone.
 
Outside of Bland I'm not sure the corners are any good. I have a feeling the quick hit routes are going to crush us pretty consistently and offset our pass rush. Especially if we play off the receivers a lot.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Outside of Bland I'm not sure the corners are any good. I have a feeling the quick hit routes are going to crush us pretty consistently and offset our pass rush. Especially if we play off the receivers a lot.
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They've worked themselves into a real situation by counting on Revel coming off the injury.

It's kind of wild because if Diggs and him were generally healthy we'd probably have an excellent CB group, but they aren't and they don't seem to have much urgency about themselves in terms of signing a guy like Gilmore.

You don't necessarily need the uber CB's when you play more zone as Eberflus will, but they could very easily be screwing themselves with the overoptimism on injured players coming back, which is an annual tradition.
 
Simpleton said:
They've worked themselves into a real situation by counting on Revel coming off the injury.

It's kind of wild because if Diggs and him were generally healthy we'd probably have an excellent CB group, but they aren't and they don't seem to have much urgency about themselves in terms of signing a guy like Gilmore.

You don't necessarily need the uber CB's when you play more zone as Eberflus will, but they could very easily be screwing themselves with the overoptimism on injured players coming back, which is an annual tradition.
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Gilmore would be nice.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Outside of Bland I'm not sure the corners are any good. I have a feeling the quick hit routes are going to crush us pretty consistently and offset our pass rush. Especially if we play off the receivers a lot.
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I think they're going to suck. I'm not buying this camp hype that a guy Buffalo unloaded for nothing is suddenly a good player. That's not a stupid organization anymore.

Except at QB amirite
 
Lewis and Overshown are not insignificant losses. I mean, the defense had horrific games with them. Lord knows what it'll look like without 'em.
 
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