2023 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[1bigfan13]

You make it sound complex. It's much simpler than that. Every human being has biases. In general officials tend to have a bias against us. Not every crew and not every week. But there is a reason why calls over time tend to favor some teams and not others. It's just a bias that officials have.

This is true. There have been a lot of instances where I've seen an OL who has a reputation for holding get called for ticky-tack penalties, and in that same game, an OL with a cleaner reputation gets away with murder. Lane Johnson is a great example. That guy constantly false starts but apparently he's a made man in the refs' eyes. If an OL with a shoddy rep did that exact same move they'd be flagging him several times per game.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

This is true. There have been a lot of instances where I've seen an OL who has a reputation for holding get called for ticky-tack penalties, and in that same game, an OL with a cleaner reputation gets away with murder. Lane Johnson is a great example. That guy constantly false starts but apparently he's a made man in the refs' eyes. If an OL with a shoddy rep did that exact same move they'd be flagging him several times per game.

Yep, I don't think there is some mandate it's a lot of reputation. I'm sure Zach Martin can get away with a bit more than your average rookie too.

 

[boozeman]

However, after MM has produced back to back 12 win seasons, I’m pretty optimistic.

Every year is different. I cannot see less than 11.

 

[boozeman]

Yep, I don't think there is some mandate it's a lot of reputation. I'm sure Zach Martin can get away with a bit more than your average rookie too.

It is all about that player learning how not to get called. But yes, rep goes a long way. Once the bullseye is there, it does not stop if you are a Cowboy. Look at Connor Williams.

 

[boozeman]

 

[p1_]

 

[Rev]

And next June 2 it will be 10,365

 

[NoDak]

And next June 2 it will be 10,365

FAIL.



Next year is Leap year.

 

[boozeman]

Yeah, but Martin has yet to punk out any of the shit placekickers we have had recently.

 

[boozeman]

 

[shoop]

Every year is different. I cannot see less than 11.

11-6 would be my guess

 

[Newt]

Yeah, but Martin has yet to punk out any of the shit placekickers we have had recently.

Zack Martin is amazing. Would have been even better if Fred Beard was still around.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah, but Martin has yet to punk out any of the shit placekickers we have had recently.

Zach has been awesome but that stat line hardly tells the story of what a player does. Larry Allen was an absolute monster as a run blocker for example. I'm not sure I've ever seen a guard like him when it comes to run blocking. But nothing in that graphic tells you how special he really was. I also find the 45 sacks allowed to be off but my memory isn't perfect.

 

[Cotton]

Zach has been awesome but that stat line hardly tells the story of what a player does. Larry Allen was an absolute monster as a run blocker for example. I'm not sure I've ever seen a guard like him when it comes to run blocking. But nothing in that graphic tells you how special he really was. I also find the 45 sacks allowed to be off but my memory isn't perfect.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, literally nobody is or ever has been "significantly better" than Larry Allen.

 

[Cotton]

Yeah, literally nobody is or ever has been "significantly better" than Larry Allen.

Larry was a damn monster. I'm tired of seeing this sacrilege.

 

[P_T]

Yeah, but Martin has yet to punk out any of the shit placekickers we have had recently.

In all fairness, LA had to protect a stationary target... while Martin has had the benefit of mobile QB's who are/were adept at avoiding pressure.

 

[Bipo]

Zach has been awesome but that stat line hardly tells the story of what a player does. Larry Allen was an absolute monster as a run blocker for example. I'm not sure I've ever seen a guard like him when it comes to run blocking. But nothing in that graphic tells you how special he really was. I also find the 45 sacks allowed to be off but my memory isn't perfect.

Agreed. No one is scared of Zach Martin. He doesn't make defensive linemen come down with Martinitis and not play that week. Larry Allen wrecked motherfuckers.

 

[shoop]

Agreed. No one is scared of Zach Martin. He doesn't make defensive linemen come down with Martinitis and not play that week. Larry Allen wrecked motherfuckers.

There is the difference. Martin is the guy every coach would like to have. Allen was the one every player wanted to have on their team.

 

[ravidubey]

In all fairness, LA had to protect a stationary target... while Martin has had the benefit of mobile QB's who are/were adept at avoiding pressure.

Level of extreme fucking dominance:

LA >>>>>>>> Martin

No defender wanted to get Larry mad. The guy played every position on the field except center… and still dominated. Who TF else did that, like ever?

Larry fell victim to a joke of a coaching staff that stopped holding him accountable, but in his best days he was darned near the best that played in this league.

Martin holds his own standards of greatness without a doubt. Second place all-time ain’t such a bad place to be.