2023 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

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boozeman said:
It seems fast.
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This is what the CBA promised for years with draft pick slotting.

Zeke’s cap savings don’t become available until June, right? You’d think they’d wait until then to keep as much cap space available as possible.
 
ravidubey said:
This is what the CBA promised for years with draft pick slotting.

Zeke’s cap savings don’t become available until June, right? You’d think they’d wait until then to keep as much cap space available as possible.
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I think we have plenty of space still.
 
Once Elliott's savings hit I think we're going to have about $20M in space, I'm guessing they'll use all of that to either extend guys like Lamb/Diggs/Dak or roll it over.

Might save about $1.5M to sign Peters in case of emergency.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Maybe he wasn't that good at it? I was assuming the guy was just old as dirt. But I actually don't think he is that much older than me. Graduated college in like 2000.
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This was Fat Mike getting his “analytics” guys on his staff more entrenched from what I have read.
 
Side note, I wonder exactly what their specialized test is. Vertical and broad jump are already good tests for that, plus I'm sure they know what these guys power clean, etc.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Side note, I wonder exactly what their specialized test is. Vertical and broad jump are already good tests for that, plus I'm sure they know what these guys power clean, etc.
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I imagine if you just adjusted for weight, vertical and broad jump would lead you to similar results. But a 320 pound guy vs. a 200 pound guy are going to have very different results in a high jump if they both have the same explosive ability.
 
I admit I ripped this off from speedkilz88 at the zone. He didn't post a source link.

“If the number is higher, that means they can move more weight with speed relative to somebody else,” said Keegan Ross, performance specialist and physical therapist at EXOS. “So, Mazi, DeMarvion and Eric can all move a lot of weight at speed despite their body weight. … Very explosive.”

Scott does not lack for witnesses.

A crowd including 29 scouts attended his March 27 pro day. They saw him grimace and favor his tightened right quadriceps during the 40-yard dash, lumbering across in 4.71 seconds. They knew to dismiss the number’s importance.
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“I think he would have been a 4.4 guy or maybe faster based on how he was trending here,” Ross said. “His best splits, with front 20 and back 20, were on track for a 4.42. Both laser. [The pro day 40] is just not an accurate representation of what he can do. That man is extremely explosive, extremely powerful and fast.”
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Scott was the surprise here. We already knew that Mazi Smith was a freak. Even Overshown. I dunno if this is what drove then to surrender a fifth, but it could have been a factor. It makes you wonder if there is a harder shift to this kind of analytics when it comes to draft picks going forward or if this was the last of that.
 
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Chocolate Lab said:
I admit I ripped this off from speedkilz88 at the zone. He didn't post a source link.
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I will say when we drafted him and that forty was first reported I was pretty damn alarmed. Like who drafts a corner who runs a 4.71 forty.

But that's because none of us even knew who the guy was. Totally off the radar player for most of us.
 
boozeman said:
Scott was the surprise here. We already knew that Mazi Smith was a freak. Even Overshown. I dunno if this is what drove then to surrender a fifth, but it could have been a factor. It makes you wonder if there is a harder shift to this kind of analytics when it comes to draft picks going forward or if this was the last of that.
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I think we've leaned into the testing numbers pretty hard over the last 10 years so I don't think it's a significant departure, but yea it'll be interesting to monitor.
 
Simpleton said:
I think we've leaned into the testing numbers pretty hard over the last 10 years so I don't think it's a significant departure, but yea it'll be interesting to monitor.
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We have but I don't know specifically how we have leaned in. You can obviously take workout numbers and come to different conclusions. And it's sort of position specific for us. Like we don't seem to draft WR's based on workout numbers. Although I guess you could say we drafted Fehoko that way. But in general we aren't drafting what I'd call workout warriors. Not the guy with the freak forty or anything like that at least. But we may be putting more of a specific emphasis on length and explosiveness.

I don't think anyone thought Scott was drafted for his athleticism initially when we all saw the 4.7 forty. Although once you throw that number out suddenly he looks like a workout warrior. I'm not sure how good he was in college. I haven't watched enough of him to say. I've seen some stuff that looks awesome. And then I've seen some stuff that makes it look like he doesn't hustle. The fact that the kid ran a forty with an injured leg combined with the interview after he was drafted makes me think he loves football and will put the work in. We will see though. At least there appears to be talent to develop there.

This isn't Nahshon Wright who basically had terrible athletic scores but was stupid long and ran a decent forty. Wright had a worse 10 yard split than Schoonmaker for fucks sake. Worse verticle than Schoonmaker. All of which while being about 60-70 pounds lighter. He literally has no short area quickness or change of direction ability. Scott at least has something to work with.
 
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