2022 Season | Week 10 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Packers | 11/13/2022

Rev said:
Im not excusing it but I can see a reason behind it. How many times does Rodgers do this? How many times does Rodgers do this to us? Try not to give him the chance. Any other QB and I think he kicks the fg but Rodgers was on fire. Only way they were going to win this game in OT was to score the first TD. No way do we hold them at all against Rodgers.
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Aaron Rodgers 14/20 for 224 yards, 3TD, 0 INT

Effective as he only needed to be.
 
This defensive performance was reminiscent of 2020 and the fact that they are so completely incapable (and unwilling in my opinion from a schematic/attitude standpoint) of prioritizing the run is pathetic.

The refs completely tilted the outcome in OT but it never should've went to OT to begin with.

And we're 10000% making the playoffs but if we're one and done again McCarthy is 10000% gone.
 
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Aaron Rodgers 14/20 for 224 yards, 3TD, 0 INT

Effective as he only needed to be.
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They were afraid to pass too much and if it wasn't for our Charmin soft run defense allowing 7 yards on 2nd and 8 consistently he never would've put up the big plays, the majority of which came in 2nd/3rd and short.
 
You can thank Aaron Rodgers for one thing.

Aaron Rodgers > thigh slap

We can go back to 100% hating the thigh slap
 
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There is plenty to question. One thing that irks me and it’s minor, it’s a 5 yard penalty in overtime.

You’ve decided that #18 isn’t ready to play all year long and then you decide he’s the one WR you want out there this week in running situations on a drive that matters everything, I ask why? Why have him out there? Does that come from Jerry and Stephen? “We want to see our draft pick getting brought along out there.”. It doesn’t make a bit of sense.

The Micah stuff is equally disturbing. He’s a game wrecker off the edge, but you play him off the ball all game long and why? Would they really have gashed thedefense any harder with Damone Clark and LVE in the middle?

It’s like our coaches sometimes want to prove they are way smarter than you think and it blows up in their face when they don’t just line up and play.
 
I wouldn’t underestimate the possibility that Dak has 3 to 4 more games where he’s bad all day or night and the Giants take the wild card that some think belong to the Cowboys.
 
This game will get gonzo ratings - a feather in Jerry's cap.
 
Sheik said:
You’ve decided that #18 isn’t ready to play all year long and then you decide he’s the one WR you want out there this week in running situations on a drive that matters everything, I ask why? Why have him out there? Does that come from Jerry and Stephen?
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Chalk another one up for "If we had Amari Cooper..."
 
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Run offense
Tony Pollard issued a legit statement about his stamina with a career-high 22 carries that produced 115 yards, including a 13-yard touchdown run in his second straight strong performance as a starter. Ezekiel Elliott can take his time returning from injury because the position is in good hands.

GRADE: A

Pass offense
Dak Prescott looked out of rhythm much of the night, even though he had some good moments. CeeDee Lamb had a strong performance with 11 catches for 150 yards and a touchdown. No other receiver was a factor, which is a problem.

GRADE: C

Run defense
Green Bay moved Dallas off the line of scrimmage all day long and Aaron Jones rushed for 138 yards and the Packers finished with 207 yards rushing. They were so effective in the first half Aaron Rodgers threw only six passes. Some folks in the front seven should take a moment of self-reflection in the morning.

GRADE: F

Pass defense
Some dude named Christian Watson beat Anthony Brown for a 58-yard touchdown and rookie DaRon Bland for a 39-yard touchdown. Aaron Rodgers passed for 224 yards, but averaged 11.2 per completion. Watson finished with 107 yards receiving and three touchdowns. The Cowboys sacked Rodgers twice, forcing him to fumble fumble.

GRADE: F


Special teams
C.J. Goodwin, a terrific gunner, forced a fumble that set up the touchdown that gave Dallas a 21-14 lead. KaVontae Turpin had a kick return to the 39 yard line to start the game, but the offense couldn’t convert it into points. Brett Maher made his extra points.

GRADE: C

Coaching
Defensive coordinator Dan Quinn had no answer the perimeter runs Green Bay did all night long. The run defense is bad -- they gave up 207 yards -- and teams will keep exploiting it until they fix it. Kellen Moore made sure Tony Pollard had a career-high in carries. Mike McCarthy had the biggest decision, going for it on fourth-and-four in the fourth quarter, which was an indictment on a defense that has been excellent much of the season.

GRADE: D

Overall
This was an awful team performance after a bye week against a team that had lost five in a row. Prescott averaged 5.8 yards per attempt, which is awful. Three losses might just mean the NFC East is lost, which means the potential playoff road is significantly more difficult. The Cowboys wasted so many chances to win this game, they deserve to be the first team in franchise history to blow a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter.

GRADE: D
 
Iamtdg said:
Well, sounds like we are talking nonsense now. This is a different team than 2016. We should have tried the FG. It's that simple. You guys have a great night.
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What do you when you're in this foul mood?

No way do I go try to hang with the family the rest of the evening. I would absolutely pop off and say something inappropriate and further damaging past the night.
 
Here's what I see on the run game, you guys tell me if you see similar.

Quinn is so specialized in his calls. We try to match up with what the offense is going to do. Say it's 2nd and 8, a pass down, we put in our rush DTs. But the offense runs it and gets 6. Now it's 3rd and 2 and they have the whole playbook. In other words, if they break a tendency, it's really bad for us. I'm not sure you can match up like you can in basketball. That's almost what Quinn is trying to do up front.

The other part is that it looks to me like when you get in that passing situation, even just a 2nd and 7, guys are rushing so hard upfield they're losing their integrity. What I'm really guessing is all the sacks talk (and sacks get big contracts) has made guys sell out too much to get to the QB. We do a lot of stunting and that makes it easy to get gashed. I wish we'd play more straight up, solid technique. Might not be as fun or flashy and might not create as many sacks, but I think we'd stop the run better.

That's not all of it, I still think LVE sucks and is way too slow. And our corners don't like to tackle, that hurts those outside runs. But I think up front this is a lot of it. People always look to the 1T, well a lot of times on these runs a 1T isn't even in the game.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Here's what I see on the run game, you guys tell me if you see similar.

Quinn is so specialized in his calls. We try to match up with what the offense is going to do. Say it's 2nd and 8, a pass down, we put in our rush DTs. But the offense runs it and gets 6. Now it's 3rd and 2 and they have the whole playbook. In other words, if they break a tendency, it's really bad for us. I'm not sure you can match up like you can in basketball. That's almost what Quinn is trying to do up front.

The other part is that it looks to me like when you get in that passing situation, even just a 2nd and 7, guys are rushing so hard upfield they're losing their integrity. What I'm really guessing is all the sacks talk (and sacks get big contracts) has made guys sell out too much to get to the QB. We do a lot of stunting and that makes it easy to get gashed. I wish we'd play more straight up, solid technique. Might not be as fun or flashy and might not create as many sacks, but I think we'd stop the run better.

That's not all of it, I still think LVE sucks and is way too slow. And our corners don't like to tackle, that hurts those outside runs. But I think up front this is a lot of it. People always look to the 1T, well a lot of times on these runs a 1T isn't even in the game.
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You're 10000% right about us going to light fronts against what we think are passing situations and teams still running because they fear our pass rush so much.

That's what I meant when I said I don't think we have the desire or attitude to prioritize stopping the run, Quinn needs to completely change his approach and go with heavy looks in anything that isn't 3rd and 6+. He also needs to beat it into these guys brains that you can't rush without stopping the run, because I totally agree that they are hunting sacks and gotten too high off all the praise they've gotten.

You look at how Tennessee plays defense and they are hell bent on stopping the run, even to the detriment of their pass rush. Even on like 3rd and 7 against the Chiefs they were lining up 270-280 lb. guys on the edge and squeezing the pocket with brute force/size rather than bending the edge with speed.

We need a little more of that philosophy (not quite to that extreme) as opposed to these light/wide alignments in 2nd and 8 that leaves huge gaps in how we're aligned and is just begging to be run against even though 2nd and 8 is generally a passing down these days.
 
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