2026 NFL Draft Chatter

Chocolate Lab said:
I wouldn't like giving up a pick, but I am more confident in Bailey as a game-changer than Styles, so I'd be okay with it.
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But it's not Bailey vs Styles, it's more like Bailey/ Rodriguez vs Thieneman/ Rodriguez/ Height or something like that.

I think the latter is the better haul despite not getting a top top end guy.

And that's not even mentioning retaining the ability to trade down from 20 and add picks which is an additional opportunity cost of trading up.
 
Cotton said:
This is going to be hard to type so bear with me. I would rather take Thieneman at 12 than use both of our firsts to go get Bailey.

I hope you're happy making me say that. I hope it haunts you at nights. I hope your milk spoils and you bread goes stale.
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Sure but my point is that 34 is close enough to 20 that I think we'd be getting more or less the same caliber of player.
 
Simpleton said:
Sure but my point is that 34 is close enough to 20 that I think we'd be getting more or less the same caliber of player.
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Well, if we are going to get the same caliber of player at 20 as we would at 34, then keep 20 and you won't also have to give up 92. Same caliber of player at 20 and we add Height.
 
Simpleton said:
Nobody is ever going to get called out for saying they want more picks but remember this sort of conversation when we end up taking Thieneman or Faulk at 12 because we sat tight.
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I'm ok with Thieneman if that's how it goes and all the top end guys are gone. He's going to be very good probably.
 
Cotton said:
Well, if we are going to get the same caliber of player at 20 as we would at 34, then keep 20 and you won't also have to give up 92. Same caliber of player at 20 and we add Height.
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Yea that's my logic, Bailey vs. whoever at 12 is worth 92 if 20 and 34 are roughly the same to me.

I get the argument of adding another 2 or 3 trading down from 20 and that would be my main hesitation.
 
Anyone else kinda missing the days when Tech went 5-6 and had two players drafted after round six? :unsure
 
Simpleton said:
Yea that's my logic, Bailey vs. whoever at 12 is worth 92 if 20 and 34 are roughly the same to me.

I get the argument of adding another 2 or 3 trading down from 20 and that would be my main hesitation.
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Thats the other part, you could potentially trade 20 for a late first and pick up a top 100 pick. Which I would happily do.

If you start at 34 trading down to recoup a third becomes a lot harder and a lot further. We badly need 3 real contributors from this draft.
 
Cotton said:
Agreed, so leave everything well enough alone and go get them.
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I'm not sure the Cards would do the trade anyway. I do love the idea of getting a Reese or Bailey, don't get me wrong, I love both players. And I know it's difficult to find real impact pass rushers. There may only be a few guys from the entire draft that sort of scratch that itch in the long run. So I get the concept of going and getting a guy who has everything to project them as that type of player.

But if I don't like my options at 12 I can always try and bail on that pick too. And a good scouting department can find and identify impact players outside of the top 3 of the draft. Look at the Raiders wiffing in the top 5 on a pass rusher but then finding Crosby in like the fourth round. Its why I like more picks than less. And why I can confidently say there will be damn good players available later in the draft.
 
Hot take: If it came right down to it, I think I'd take Bailey over Reese. I'm not sure if I'm completely sold on Reese. He's being sold as an edge player, but has he ever really done it? I mean, he has all the measurables and is a great athlete. But is he just that unicorn that is great athletically and checks all the boxes? He was a great linebacker at Ohio St., sure. But does that project to a guy that will be getting after the QB the vast majority of the time?

I mean, hell. Styles probably has the better prototype body of a 3-4 OLB that rushes off the edge. But he's looked at as a MLB.
 
NoDak said:
I mean, hell. Styles probably has the better prototype body of a 3-4 OLB that rushes off the edge. But he's looked at as a MLB.
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Biggest difference is the level of physicality. Reese is a pretty powerful dude.

My thought on Reese is he can play OLBer here and do both roles to some extent. Yes, Ohio State did use him as a pass rusher but it's a smaller window of use then guys like Bailey that did it basically their whole career.

But the idea of a 3-4 is that your OLBers don't rush the passer every play. Otherwise it's not really a 3-4. And frankly if you wanted you could play him as MLBer right now too and mix him in as an edge rusher. Sort of the way Parsons began his career before necessity moved him to DE.

Reese with a creative defensive coordinator could be something special.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Yep, I posted the consensus rankings earlier and it’s Allen, Rodriguez and then Hill but all 3 of them fall within like 5-7 spots in the second round of each other. So you're talking about a grouping that is very tight with each other.
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Next…Rodriguez.

Then a pretty big gap exists until you get to Hill IMO.
 
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