2026 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread...

The only year in his career Brooks wasn't top 10 in tackles was the year he was coming off of offseason ACL surgery. Yeah, I would easily give up a 3rd for that.
 
Cotton said:
The only year in his career Brooks wasn't top 10 in tackles was the year he was coming off of offseason ACL surgery. Yeah, I would easily give up a 3rd for that.
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On that 26th ranked run defense last year...

Fun fact, Jaylon Smith once had 154 tackles for our defense.

Listen I like Jordyn Brooks, but you're trying to make a guy who didn't get offered a fifth year option sound like a perennial all star. He is a good LBer.
 
Cotton said:
You realize he has only been with the Dolphins two years, right?

2021 Seahawks - 2nd
2022 Seahawks - 4th
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So good the Seahawks didn't give him a fifth year option. He isn't worth no third.

On a positive note his 10 mil cap hit seems reasonable and he could probably be extended to lower it. I'd welcome him to Dallas with open arms. Just not for a third.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Listen I like Jordyn Brooks, but you're trying to make a guy who didn't get offered a fifth year option sound like a perennial all star. He is a good LBer.
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I don't know what your definition of perennial is but only being outside the top 10 once in his career and only because of an ACL injury is what I would call perennial all star. So, yeah, that's what I'm proving he is.
 
Simpleton said:
For the record, if they can add Brooks for a reasonable price it'd be the equivalent of signing a guy like Dean, Walker or whoever in FA. It'd automatically push this offseason into "clear success" territory, assuming they don't absolutely fuck up the draft.
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It depends what draft pick they'd give up for him. The contract is whatever.

Dean (or Walker) >>>>>>>>>>>> Brooks plus a premium draft pick.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Would you have traded Osa for Brooks? To me, easy yes. So do it.
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No, I would not have.

But regardless that's faulty logic because circumstances change and are different for everyone.

So for example, we traded a 3rd for Pickens. Would you take a 3rd for him now? Obviously not.

Miami's not trying to be in a position where a guy like Brooks is helping them win. They're resetting.
 
Cotton said:
This year was he more like in 2021 when he was second in tackles? Or when he was 4th in tackles in 2022? Or like in 2024 when he was 9th? Like those three years? BTW, he had more tackles in 2021 than 2025. But, yanno, he is more like those 3 years than this last year, amirite?
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Tackles are a bad measure of LB quality.

Bobby Wagner had 162 tackles last year, why not just sign him and keep your draft picks?
 
Simpleton said:
They were the top ILB FA's, if Brooks is somewhere around their level how would adding him not make the offseason an obvious success?

If we had managed to sign Dean would we all not be pretty thrilled with where things are headed defensively?
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You're conveniently discounting the draft pick compensation it would take to acquire him.
 
Simpleton said:
It's pretty obvious that they're going to see how the draft plays out and then do something at ILB if they ended up not getting one in the first or early 2nd after a trade down.

I'd hope that they'd still go after a guy like Brooks even if they add an ILB in the 3rd/4th.
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My guess is Miami is just asking for too much.

Fair enough, we can move on and they can be stuck with him.

Good for us if we refuse to cave.
 
Genghis Khan said:
It depends what draft pick they'd give up for him. The contract is whatever.

Dean (or Walker) >>>>>>>>>>>> Brooks plus a premium draft pick.
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What's premium? I'm not too concerned whether it's 92 or 112.

A 2nd next year and then I'd have an issue.
 
Genghis Khan said:
No, I would not have.

But regardless that's faulty logic because circumstances change and are different for everyone.

So for example, we traded a 3rd for Pickens. Would you take a 3rd for him now? Obviously not.

Miami's not trying to be in a position where a guy like Brooks is helping them win. They're resetting.
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I wouldn't have either. But that's because a really good 3 tech is worth more than a really good LBer. That's not a knock on Brooks. He is a good player. But you can see the value difference in the types of contracts these guys receive.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I wouldn't have either. But that's because a really good 3 tech is worth more than a really good LBer. That's not a knock on Brooks. He is a good player. But you can see the value difference in the types of contracts these guys receive.
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In general I'd definitely rather have a player like Osa over a player like Brooks, but if the new DC doesn't feel Osa is a good fit and we desperately need a starting ILB?

In that case I'm taking Brooks because the difference between the players isn't that large when taking that into account.

But that leans heavily on the assumption that Osa didn't fit.
 
Simpleton said:
What's premium? I'm not too concerned whether it's 92 or 112.

A 2nd next year and then I'd have an issue.
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Yeah a third is premium. We'd be dumb to give that up for a LB. It's not a premium position.

We're looking to acquire him because we have almost no one at the position and we're desperate. Not because it would significantly elevate the defense.

I'd far, far rather draft a guy at 92 who I think could pretty quickly get to a competent level and could be with the team for the next 10 years.

I wouldn't want to do 112 either but I'd be more ok with it.

But you were comparing signing Dean or Walker with trading for Brooks, and I'm just saying don't forget we're giving up a draft pick if we get Brooks.

That makes it not a 1 to 1 comparison.
 
Simpleton said:
In general I'd definitely rather have a player like Osa over a player like Brooks, but if the new DC doesn't feel Osa is a good fit and we desperately need a starting ILB?
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I mean I get trading away Osa for fit reasons. But that doesn't mean I'd put equal "value" on them. Which is why I wouldn't have traded them straight up 1 for 1. It's also the same reason why if Osa's value was a third. Brooks value isn't as high.

Now if you are saying losing Osa but adding Brooks is a net wash to the defense I get that argument. Hell adding Brooks and losing Osa is probably a net gain just because of system fit and desperate need at LB compared to DT. But that doesn't mean they have the same trade value.
 
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