2024 Season | Thursday Opening Night Game | Gameday Chatter Thread | Ravens vs Chiefs | 9/5/2024

[p1_]

YES IT DOES... THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT!

The rule states that the entirety of the body part that the NFL accepts as meeting the requirements for possession must be completely within the field of play at the time of the catch.

It doesn't matter if it's two feet, a knee, or an elbow.

The ENTIRETY of that part of the body must be inbounds with not a single inch or centimeter being out of the field of play.

Why are you struggling so much with this?

I’m referring to NCAA rule. Comparing the two differing treatments for the same play.

 

[NoDak]

I’m referring to NCAA rule. Comparing the two differing treatments.

Sure, the NCAA only requires one foot in for a catch. But that entire foot STILL HAS TO BE COMPLETELY IN BOUNDS. If any part of it touches the boundary, they are no longer in bounds.

 

[Texas Ace]

That's not the same thing that you were complaining about though.

Exactly, which it why I said it was a bad example.

If you start ruling in favor of catches because you don't think a pinky toe on the line made any difference whatsoever, then what's next?

Are you going to count field goals that hit the upright as good because the poor guy tried from 72 yards out with no time on the clock, therefore we're gonna count it anyway because it's a hell of an effort and the team doesn't deserve to lose that way?

Give me a break.

 

[p1_]

Sure, the NCAA only requires one foot in for a catch. But that entire foot STILL HAS TO BE COMPLETELY IN BOUNDS. If any part of it touches the boundary, they are no longer in bounds.

Agreed. Just like last nights play .
One foot in.
One foot out.
….and wait for it…..
TD.

Game on.

 

[p1_]

Exactly, which it why I said it was a bad example.

If you start ruling in favor of catches because you don't think a pinky toe on the line made any difference whatsoever, then what's next?

Are you going to count field goals that hit the upright as good because the poor guy tried from 72 yards out with no time on the clock, therefore we're gonna count it anyway because it's a hell of an effort and the team doesn't deserve to lose that way?

Give me a break.

Do you hate the college rule?

 

[Texas Ace]

Agreed. Just like last nights play .
One foot in.
One foot out.
….and wait for it…..
TD.

Game on.

Either you're being obtuse or you truly don't understand how the college rule works.

 

[p1_]

That's not the same thing that you were complaining about though.

How so?

 

[Texas Ace]

Do you hate the college rule?

I do not.

I'd prefer that 2 feet be inbounds, but I don't hate the college rule.

However, even though only 1 foot is required in college that doesn't mean that the other foot can be out of bounds at the time that the receiver catches the ball -- he would be ruled out of bounds and the catch ruled out.

Like the NFL, they are still requiring that the body part in question come down completely within the field of play.

What you're suggesting is that depending on how much or how little of that body part is out of bounds should be taken into account when ruling on the validity of a catch and that's simply preposterous.

 

[Genghis Khan]

How so?

Because you were complaining about breaking the plane, which isn't affected by whether you need 1 or 2 feet down.

If your first toe is breaking the line, it's out whether it's college or pros.

 

[p1_]

Either you're being obtuse or you truly don't understand how the college rule works.

What did I miss?

 

[Texas Ace]

Because you were complaining about breaking the plane, which isn't affected by whether you need 1 or 2 feet down.

If your first toe is breaking the line, it's out whether it's college or pros.

Right.

Which is completely different from what he was suggesting which is that the rules should be discarded depending upon the situation or scenario in which that play occurs.

 

[p1_]

Right.

Which is completely different from what he was suggesting which is that the rules should be discarded depending upon the situation or scenario in which that play occurs.

I wasn’t suggesting discarding rules situationally.

 

[p1_]

If your first toe is breaking the line, it's out whether it's college or pros.

This is what I didn’t know.
The “leading toe” as it were.

 

[NoDak]

Agreed. Just like last nights play .
One foot in.
One foot out.
….and wait for it…..
TD.

Game on.

And the NFL rules clearly state that BOTH feet have to be in bounds. If the same exact scenario had happened in college, with the one foot barely having the toe out, they would be out of bounds.

Jesus Christ dude. It's like trying to talk to a child. A really, REALLY stupid child.

 

[Texas Ace]

I wasn’t suggesting discarding rules situationally.

So then what was the point you intended to get across with the following two posts?

i would give it to him. Helluva play.

I just struggle with 'breaking the plane" by a toe (or a hand). But rules are rules.

Im a nonconformist, what can I say?

 

[bbgun]

p1 upvoted a post that called him retarded

 

[boozeman]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Can I just say that I'm more offended by how awful and boring that song is than I am by the fact that they have a "black national" anthem.

Sure I think it's a little racist to honor people only because of the color of their skin. And if you didn't tell me that was the "black" National Anthem I would have no idea. But lets not pretend that it's anywhere even in the ballpark of what the National Anthem is.

 

[p1_]

So then what was the point you intended to get across with the following two posts?

Several things:
1) It was a great play
2) perhaps I don’t like the NFL rule
3) I had no knowledge of the leading foot requirement (first foot to land I now understand) in NCAA rules.

 

[Cotton]

One foot or toe over does not invalidate a reception.

Man, you're overboard here. Jesus Christ, he was OUT OF BOUNDS.