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Jesus, no professional is perfect on every play.Good rookies not great Poe ate Fredericks lunch and Smith had his struggles as well.
Jesus, no professional is perfect on every play.Good rookies not great Poe ate Fredericks lunch and Smith had his struggles as well.
What does that have to do with anything I said?Jesus, no professional is perfect on every play.
You're saying (3.3 ypc) Andre Williams is going to be some kind of secret badass and the other two are going to be "solid" (not sure how many yards are in a 'solid') while each and every one of our backs is going to fall flat. I'll take our Williams over theirs. I'll take Randle over any of them.Man, pile on Clay.
What have I said that's implausible?
That NY will have have an average OL instead of a terrible one?
That a strong rookie prospect in a strong class with greater pedigree than any Cowboy RB has more potential than anyone Dallas has?
That Vereen and Jennings will be average?
That the worst three backs of all the above look to be McFadden, Dunbar, and Ryan Williams?
I think it really comes down to Randle. People seem to believe he's this 1200+ yard back.
Unfortunately they *have* to believe that.
FYI, ">=" translated means about the same or better.
I was highly concerned they would until they got Collins and doubled down on the line. We made a running back committee work in 2003, 2007 and 2009. I think the front office believe that they can do it again and there will be pressure on the coaches to make the team's newfound identity as a team that runs first and protects the D carry over into this year. They don't want to look like fools for letting Murray go to the Eagles.That's on the coaches and there is no reason to believe they will regress with regards to this.
It was at the very least partially because the pass protection was better.Romo with a run game is top shelf, not a bus driver. It is not a coincidence he had fewer back breaking turnovers. He didn't feel the pressure to win games by himself. He seemed much more in control and efficient.
And it wasn't because the pass protection was that much better, he was not sacked less than par.
For rookies, Smith and Fred had outstanding rookie seasons. Nitpicking it down to one game is disingenuous.What does that have to do with anything I said?
Don't try to rationalize with them. They have no room for contingencies. The run game for the upcoming season is very much an unknown now because of the loss of a producing RB. It is in fact a wait an see situation with both the rookie and the next RB. It's not rocket science.Good rookies not great Poe ate Fredericks lunch and Smith had his struggles as well.
Randle over Andre Williams without seeing Williams or Randle play as an 20-carry NFL starter is what we call homerism. You also can't take Randle over Jennings either. Averaging 3.8 yards per carry behind that terrible crippled 2014 Giants OL was an accomplishment. The year before he averaged 4.5 YPC behind the Raiders' OL, and that's more like the player he is.You're saying (3.3 ypc) Andre Williams is going to be some kind of secret badass and the other two are going to be "solid" (not sure how many yards are in a 'solid') while each and every one of our backs is going to fall flat. I'll take our Williams over theirs. I'll take Randle over any of them.
2003 Dallas had Parcells who knew his shit and was never infatuated with being known as some kind of offensive guru.I was highly concerned they would until they got Collins and doubled down on the line. We made a running back committee work in 2003, 2007 and 2009. I think the front office believe that they can do it again and there will be pressure on the coaches to make the team's newfound identity as a team that runs first and protects the D carry over into this year. They don't want to look like fools for letting Murray go to the Eagles.
Yeah, I'd say since the O-line added an all pro at guard, I'd say it probably had a little something to do with Romo's improvement. What ever happened to you guys preaching about the O-line and D-line being the most important thing. Now it's suddenly all about the RB.It was at the very least partially because the pass protection was better.
You're really desperate for that to be the case, but it's supported by no evidence, so:2003 Dallas had Parcells who knew his shit and was never infatuated with being known as some kind of offensive guru.
In 07 they had 2nd and 4th round picks each playing well behind a strong line and strong overall team.
In 09 they had that draw play that inflated our stats between the 20's and was utterly useless in the redzone. They also added a 1st round pick in Felix the previous year, but even then the running game was mostly a mirage, and the Vikings proved it in the playoffs.
Today they have half the tools to make a running game work. The other half is always the running backs, and they are among the very worst in the league at this position.
No but the Giants are solid. Dallas is one of the worst. I'm just not even sure what to say anymore. McFadden is basically a better player then any of their RBs and that is sad.You're really desperate for that to be the case, but it's supported by no evidence, so:
I'd put this group on par with the 2007 group and light years ahead of 2003 and 2009. If we run it 500+ times we'll get the job done. We may not get the peak value dominating performances Murray gave us last year, but we'll get consistent production.No but the Giants are solid. Dallas is one of the worst. I'm just not even sure what to say anymore. McFadden is basically a better player then any of their RBs and that is sad.
When the RB was a key part of your team and you lost and failed to replace him, yeah it's important.Yeah, I'd say since the O-line added an all pro at guard, I'd say it probably had a little something to do with Romo's improvement. What ever happened to you guys preaching about the O-line and D-line being the most important thing. Now it's suddenly all about the RB.
So who in the conference are our current RB's better than? The thread is titled: "Jerry Jones sees Dallas Cowboys with better run game in 2015" after all.God damn, this RB argument thing is getting really f'ing old. It has taken over like 4-5 threads. I know it's the offseason, but Jesus H.
So anyways, Joseph Randle sucks.God damn, this RB argument thing is getting really f'ing old. It has taken over like 4-5 threads. I know it's the offseason, but Jesus H.
The other 4 aren't titled that, and btw I didn't quote your post, so I wasn't referring to that one post. I was just stating a fact... that this argument has taken over like 4-5 threads. And it is really f'ing annoying.So who in the conference are our current RB's better than? The thread is titled: "Jerry Jones sees Dallas Cowboys with better run game in 2015" after all.
God damn, this RB argument thing is getting really f'ing old. It has taken over like 4-5 threads. I know it's the offseason, but Jesus H.
Then merge the threads into a megathread, so you are not so offended.The other 4 aren't titled that, and btw I didn't quote your post, so I wasn't referring to that one post. I was just stating a fact... that this argument has taken over like 4-5 threads. And it is really f'ing annoying.