Russia Invades Ukraine

[Cowboysrock55]

Petroleum prices have been rising since 2020

That's not true. They didn't start to rise until 2021. You may want to actually look at the numbers.

In 2020 gas prices started at 2.636 and ended December at 2.282.

January 2021 start 2.420 and ended at 3.406.

So yeah, not sure where you get your shit from but it's wrong. And in 2022 we are even higher.

 

[Cujo]

That's not true. They didn't start to rise until 2021. You may want to actually look at the numbers.

In 2020 gas prices started at 2.636 and ended December at 2.282.

January 2021 start 2.420 and ended at 3.406.

So yeah, not sure where you get your shit from but it's wrong. And in 2022 we are even higher.

He read it off twitter. It's getting repeated by the left a lot but it's horseshit

 

[boozeman]

So can someone fucking tell me why we won't release the Polish MIGs?

Give them the weapons they need to fight.

 

[NoDak]

That's not true. They didn't start to rise until 2021. You may want to actually look at the numbers.

In 2020 gas prices started at 2.636 and ended December at 2.282.

January 2021 start 2.420 and ended at 3.406.

So yeah, not sure where you get your shit from but it's wrong. And in 2022 we are even higher.

Maybe he’s talking about in WGAS 3rd world countries.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Maybe he’s talking about in WGAS 3rd world countries.

Could be, I just assume we are talking US. Forget some of us here don't live in the US. I have no idea about Mexican gas prices.

 

[boozeman]

Could be, I just assume we are talking US. Forget some of us here don't live in the US. I have no idea about Mexican gas prices.

I wish we could recruit a Ukrainian Cowboys fan.

I do miss the diversity we used to have on the board at one time.

 

[bbgun]

So can someone fucking tell me why we won't release the Polish MIGs?

Give them the weapons they need to fight.

Poland's a member of NATO, but I don't see that as a hindrance. It should be okay to arm Ukraine without doing the fighting ourselves. Hell, we do it all the time with other countries.

 

[boozeman]

Poland's a member of NATO, but I don't see that as a hindrance. It should be okay to arm Ukraine without doing the fighting ourselves. Hell, we do it all the time with other countries.

That did not answer my question, but thank you for contributing to the discussion.

 

[Cujo]

So can someone fucking tell me why we won't release the Polish MIGs?

Give them the weapons they need to fight.

Because this administration has no balls. They are pussies.

 

[boozeman]

Because this administration has no balls. They are pussies.

Yes, but certainly there is someone other than Biden or Harris that could call this out.

I guess none of you dumbasses knows.

Nevermind, I will Google it.

 

[Sheik]

Petroleum prices have been rising since 2020

 

[skidadl]

I wish we could recruit a Ukrainian Cowboys fan.

I do miss the diversity we used to have on the board at one time.

No doubt. Back in the day we had a nice left/right balance with good, hearty discussion. Now it is LGB 24/7, which makes sense but it is also boring.

 

[Angrymesscan]

That's not true. They didn't start to rise until 2021. You may want to actually look at the numbers.

In 2020 gas prices started at 2.636 and ended December at 2.282.

January 2021 start 2.420 and ended at 3.406.

So yeah, not sure where you get your shit from but it's wrong. And in 2022 we are even higher.

 

[NoDak]

Argue gas prices, show oil prices. Go figure.

So, when oil prices dropped to zero for that short time, was gas free? Hell, the graph showed they dropped below zero. Did they pay us to get gas?

 

[Angrymesscan]

Argue gas prices, show oil prices. Go figure.

So, when oil prices dropped to zero for that short time, was gas free? Hell, the graph showed they dropped below zero. Did they pay us to get gas?

i said petroleum not gas

 

[NoDak]

i said petroleum not gas

Eh. You're a foreigner. Don't you all call gas petrol?

Also, the graph you show claiming rising prices in '20 doesn't really support your argument. Of course they rose. Hard not to when they dropped to zero. Even so, they didn't recover in '20 to where they were before the freefall until '21. Just like C Rock said.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)​

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
1993				1.078	1.100	1.097	1.078	1.062	1.050	1.092	1.066	1.014
1994	0.998	1.009	1.008	1.027	1.047	1.078	1.106	1.155	1.144	1.114	1.119	1.129
1995	1.130	1.120	1.119	1.157	1.225	1.239	1.201	1.170	1.158	1.134	1.109	1.118
1996	1.137	1.136	1.183	1.275	1.324	1.300	1.272	1.251	1.247	1.249	1.278	1.282
1997	1.283	1.276	1.251	1.244	1.245	1.242	1.220	1.268	1.276	1.242	1.216	1.177
1998	1.132	1.096	1.064	1.077	1.105	1.103	1.094	1.065	1.049	1.059	1.036	0.987
1999	0.980	0.962	1.022	1.171	1.171	1.154	1.197	1.260	1.295	1.285	1.292	1.313
2000	1.329	1.415	1.556	1.506	1.526	1.666	1.591	1.506	1.588	1.571	1.557	1.483
2001	1.487	1.490	1.450	1.591	1.738	1.658	1.466	1.461	1.557	1.357	1.212	1.127
2002	1.148	1.155	1.289	1.439	1.434	1.424	1.438	1.438	1.441	1.486	1.461	1.429
2003	1.500	1.655	1.734	1.633	1.539	1.533	1.554	1.661	1.721	1.606	1.555	1.522
2004	1.614	1.690	1.778	1.839	2.023	2.013	1.954	1.920	1.912	2.042	2.023	1.887
2005	1.875	1.953	2.120	2.285	2.205	2.198	2.333	2.529	2.951	2.765	2.303	2.229
2006	2.360	2.326	2.468	2.787	2.953	2.930	3.025	2.999	2.606	2.293	2.275	2.359
2007	2.289	2.323	2.609	2.891	3.187	3.102	3.011	2.834	2.849	2.853	3.128	3.070
2008	3.095	3.078	3.293	3.507	3.815	4.105	4.114	3.833	3.756	3.112	2.208	1.745
2009	1.840	1.975	2.011	2.102	2.316	2.681	2.582	2.670	2.609	2.605	2.706	2.663
2010	2.769	2.699	2.824	2.900	2.890	2.785	2.782	2.783	2.757	2.853	2.913	3.048
2011	3.148	3.264	3.615	3.852	3.960	3.735	3.705	3.696	3.667	3.506	3.443	3.326
2012	3.440	3.640	3.907	3.958	3.791	3.596	3.498	3.780	3.910	3.812	3.521	3.381
2013	3.391	3.736	3.779	3.638	3.675	3.689	3.661	3.645	3.604	3.420	3.322	3.357
2014	3.392	3.434	3.606	3.735	3.750	3.766	3.688	3.565	3.484	3.255	2.997	2.632
2015	2.208	2.301	2.546	2.555	2.802	2.885	2.880	2.726	2.462	2.387	2.260	2.144
2016	2.057	1.872	2.071	2.216	2.371	2.467	2.345	2.284	2.327	2.359	2.295	2.366
2017	2.458	2.416	2.437	2.528	2.503	2.460	2.414	2.494	2.761	2.621	2.678	2.594
2018	2.671	2.705	2.709	2.873	2.987	2.970	2.928	2.914	2.915	2.943	2.736	2.457
2019	2.338	2.393	2.594	2.881	2.946	2.804	2.823	2.707	2.681	2.724	2.693	2.645
2020	2.636	2.533	2.329	1.938	1.961	2.170	2.272	2.272	2.274	2.248	2.200	2.284
2021	2.420	2.587	2.898	2.948	3.076	3.157	3.231	3.255	3.272	3.384	3.491	3.406
2022	3.413	3.611

Here is what matters in America. And pretty fucking obvious gas prices were great, and then something happened after 2020 starting in 2021. Hmmm, can't think of what exactly...

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Argue gas prices, show oil prices. Go figure.

So, when oil prices dropped to zero for that short time, was gas free? Hell, the graph showed they dropped below zero. Did they pay us to get gas?

How does a price go negative exactly? I'm clearly not understanding the graph. Was someone paying us to take oil off their hands?

 

[Angrymesscan]

Doesn’t that show that gas prices have little to do with who is in office.

U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)​

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
1993				1.078	1.100	1.097	1.078	1.062	1.050	1.092	1.066	1.014
1994	0.998	1.009	1.008	1.027	1.047	1.078	1.106	1.155	1.144	1.114	1.119	1.129
1995	1.130	1.120	1.119	1.157	1.225	1.239	1.201	1.170	1.158	1.134	1.109	1.118
1996	1.137	1.136	1.183	1.275	1.324	1.300	1.272	1.251	1.247	1.249	1.278	1.282
1997	1.283	1.276	1.251	1.244	1.245	1.242	1.220	1.268	1.276	1.242	1.216	1.177
1998	1.132	1.096	1.064	1.077	1.105	1.103	1.094	1.065	1.049	1.059	1.036	0.987
1999	0.980	0.962	1.022	1.171	1.171	1.154	1.197	1.260	1.295	1.285	1.292	1.313
2000	1.329	1.415	1.556	1.506	1.526	1.666	1.591	1.506	1.588	1.571	1.557	1.483
2001	1.487	1.490	1.450	1.591	1.738	1.658	1.466	1.461	1.557	1.357	1.212	1.127
2002	1.148	1.155	1.289	1.439	1.434	1.424	1.438	1.438	1.441	1.486	1.461	1.429
2003	1.500	1.655	1.734	1.633	1.539	1.533	1.554	1.661	1.721	1.606	1.555	1.522
2004	1.614	1.690	1.778	1.839	2.023	2.013	1.954	1.920	1.912	2.042	2.023	1.887
2005	1.875	1.953	2.120	2.285	2.205	2.198	2.333	2.529	2.951	2.765	2.303	2.229
2006	2.360	2.326	2.468	2.787	2.953	2.930	3.025	2.999	2.606	2.293	2.275	2.359
2007	2.289	2.323	2.609	2.891	3.187	3.102	3.011	2.834	2.849	2.853	3.128	3.070
2008	3.095	3.078	3.293	3.507	3.815	4.105	4.114	3.833	3.756	3.112	2.208	1.745
2009	1.840	1.975	2.011	2.102	2.316	2.681	2.582	2.670	2.609	2.605	2.706	2.663
2010	2.769	2.699	2.824	2.900	2.890	2.785	2.782	2.783	2.757	2.853	2.913	3.048
2011	3.148	3.264	3.615	3.852	3.960	3.735	3.705	3.696	3.667	3.506	3.443	3.326
2012	3.440	3.640	3.907	3.958	3.791	3.596	3.498	3.780	3.910	3.812	3.521	3.381
2013	3.391	3.736	3.779	3.638	3.675	3.689	3.661	3.645	3.604	3.420	3.322	3.357
2014	3.392	3.434	3.606	3.735	3.750	3.766	3.688	3.565	3.484	3.255	2.997	2.632
2015	2.208	2.301	2.546	2.555	2.802	2.885	2.880	2.726	2.462	2.387	2.260	2.144
2016	2.057	1.872	2.071	2.216	2.371	2.467	2.345	2.284	2.327	2.359	2.295	2.366
2017	2.458	2.416	2.437	2.528	2.503	2.460	2.414	2.494	2.761	2.621	2.678	2.594
2018	2.671	2.705	2.709	2.873	2.987	2.970	2.928	2.914	2.915	2.943	2.736	2.457
2019	2.338	2.393	2.594	2.881	2.946	2.804	2.823	2.707	2.681	2.724	2.693	2.645
2020	2.636	2.533	2.329	1.938	1.961	2.170	2.272	2.272	2.274	2.248	2.200	2.284
2021	2.420	2.587	2.898	2.948	3.076	3.157	3.231	3.255	3.272	3.384	3.491	3.406
2022	3.413	3.611

Here is what matters in America. And pretty fucking obvious gas prices were great, and then something happened after 2020 starting in 2021. Hmmm, can't think of what exactly...

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Doesn’t that show that gas prices have little to do with who is in office.

Um no, I think very much the opposite when you see a trend very clearly start when you transition from one President to the next. There are a lot of policy decisions inside the United States that impact those prices. It also shows that this wasn't something just sparked by the war with Russia. This is a upward trend that started at the beginning of 2021 and has only been accelerated by the war. March isn't shown yet but the number is 4.17 from what I can tell right now. Pretty massive jump as well.