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Smitty

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This isn't a player running his mouth, Smitty. This is the guy who represents this country to the rest of the world. And he is a clown who can't stop saying stupid shit. The fact that that's not embarrassing to some of you is something I just don't get.
It is embarassing to me.

Just not more embarassing than Joe Biden.

If I could hand-usher, say, Vivek or DeSantis into the White House over Trump, I would.

Trump's policies are actually very defendable, though, if you can get by the embarassment. He did way more good in his four years in terms of policy than Biden has in his four.
 

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It is embarassing to me.

Just not more embarassing than Joe Biden.

If I could hand-usher, say, Vivek or DeSantis into the White House over Trump, I would.

Trump's policies are actually very defendable, though, if you can get by the embarassment. He did way more good in his four years in terms of policy than Biden has in his four.
Listen, I'm not a Trump guy at all. I think he is obnoxious, annoying, maybe even deplorable in the way he acts and manipulates people.

With that being said what I do know is the economy was a hell of a lot better when he was President. At least prior to covid. If you didn't feel the difference than you're not a business owner. The average American is really not in a great place under Joe Biden. Honestly they were in a great place under Trump. And I get that Biden likes to point to statistics on how this isn't true. He is wrong and those numbers are manipulated to try to convince people who don't understand numbers. In the same way that people are told inflation is going down, all while that doesn't mean prices are going down. Simply that a ridiculously high inflation rate isn't as high as it was earlier. Or claiming that unemployment is down, when at the same time you've really just discouraged some people to stop seeking employment and thus made the unemployment numbers look better.

I get wanting an intelligent and well spoken President. But when push comes to shove, I want my every day life to be better. I want to make more money, have more in savings and I want my clients to have more money to pay me. That's Trump and that's all that really matters to me. Sure I'll be disgusted if I turn on the TV and watch a speech by the President. But beyond that, it doesn't impact me much. What does impact me is the economy. Biden or the Democrats or both have no fucking idea how to run an economy.
 

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Listen, I'm not a Trump guy at all. I think he is obnoxious, annoying, maybe even deplorable in the way he acts and manipulates people.

With that being said what I do know is the economy was a hell of a lot better when he was President. At least prior to covid. If you didn't feel the difference than you're not a business owner. The average American is really not in a great place under Joe Biden. Honestly they were in a great place under Trump. And I get that Biden likes to point to statistics on how this isn't true. He is wrong and those numbers are manipulated to try to convince people who don't understand numbers. In the same way that people are told inflation is going down, all while that doesn't mean prices are going down. Simply that a ridiculously high inflation rate isn't as high as it was earlier. Or claiming that unemployment is down, when at the same time you've really just discouraged some people to stop seeking employment and thus made the unemployment numbers look better.

I get wanting an intelligent and well spoken President. But when push comes to shove, I want my every day life to be better. I want to make more money, have more in savings and I want my clients to have more money to pay me. That's Trump and that's all that really matters to me. Sure I'll be disgusted if I turn on the TV and watch a speech by the President. But beyond that, it doesn't impact me much. What does impact me is the economy. Biden or the Democrats or both have no fucking idea how to run an economy.
Dude. You don’t know anything about politics and what it takes to run a country.

He has orange skin and is mean. And, do I even need to mention his small hands? I mean, come on!
 

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Dude. You don’t know anything about politics and what it takes to run a country.

He has orange skin and is mean. And, do I even need to mention his small hands? I mean, come on!
It's funny what people talk about when it comes to trying to downgrade a guy running for President. I fall into the trap a little like when I see Biden sniffing some child in a creepy fashion. But like I said, I care more about my life and the lives of people I live around. I want that to be better.
 

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Listen, I'm not a Trump guy at all. I think he is obnoxious, annoying, maybe even deplorable in the way he acts and manipulates people.

With that being said what I do know is the economy was a hell of a lot better when he was President. At least prior to covid. If you didn't feel the difference than you're not a business owner. The average American is really not in a great place under Joe Biden. Honestly they were in a great place under Trump. And I get that Biden likes to point to statistics on how this isn't true. He is wrong and those numbers are manipulated to try to convince people who don't understand numbers. In the same way that people are told inflation is going down, all while that doesn't mean prices are going down. Simply that a ridiculously high inflation rate isn't as high as it was earlier. Or claiming that unemployment is down, when at the same time you've really just discouraged some people to stop seeking employment and thus made the unemployment numbers look better.

I get wanting an intelligent and well spoken President. But when push comes to shove, I want my every day life to be better. I want to make more money, have more in savings and I want my clients to have more money to pay me. That's Trump and that's all that really matters to me. Sure I'll be disgusted if I turn on the TV and watch a speech by the President. But beyond that, it doesn't impact me much. What does impact me is the economy. Biden or the Democrats or both have no fucking idea how to run an economy.
Ways that Trump is better than Biden:
  • Foreign policy accomplishments were way better (middle east agreements, countries recognizing Israel, relocating US embassy)
  • No wars (I think his craziness actually influenced other nations to behave)
  • Taxes lower
  • Energy Independence
  • Social justice nonsense was kicked to the curb
  • Supreme Court justices
  • Attacking the media in public, while pathetic, is still way better and less pathetic than attacking powerless citizen groups
  • Was actually right about Covid and how we should handle it, despite the early mockery from the press

Ways that Biden is better than Trump:

  • Embarrasses us with senility instead of the ridiculous things he says (you can't understand most of the crazy shit that Biden would say)
  • He's not combative against the media, only against harmless fringe conservatives like the prepper crowd
  • Isn't under constant assault on fabricated charges from a complicit media and justice department


Name ONE fucking policy achievement that Biden has done better than Trump, Irv.

Name fucking ONE.

Biden can't even get done things that the Right would or MIGHT agree with if they negotiated, like decriminalization of marijuana, student loan discharge in bankruptcy codification, electric car initiatives that would boost business (I don't mean a "Green New Deal," which is essentially a socialist paradigm shift, but actually pushing policies that encourage business and growth in "green" energy formats), etc.

He can't do anything. Trump got shit done.

Biden has done fucking NOTHING.

It's because he's (1) an empty suit to begin with, only put into power to stop Trump and keep his Washington buddies comfortable, and (2) he's a doddering old fool who is literally incompetent to be President. Trump is old but at least he's still with it.
 
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Smitty

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This is the average person who is a Congressman in our country.

Can't even pronounce the word "indict."

Left and Right.

This is the average brain power of a Congressperson.

This is why Washington is broken. It's become a fashion show and pandering contest. You get fringe idiots and people who are elected on their ability to kiss babies. That's it.

I mean..... I hate to say it, but..... maybe you should have to have a law degree to be a member of Congress.

That would solve some issues. Never would happen, but at least you'd weed out the absolute morons.
 

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This is the average person who is a Congressman in our country.

Can't even pronounce the word "indict."

Left and Right.

This is the average brain power of a Congressperson.

This is why Washington is broken. It's become a fashion show and pandering contest. You get fringe idiots and people who are elected on their ability to kiss babies. That's it.

I mean..... I hate to say it, but..... maybe you should have to have a law degree to be a member of Congress.

That would solve some issues. Never would happen, but at least you'd weed out the absolute morons.
There has to be a qualifier of some sort. Wait, our last “great” President was a movie actor.
 

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Meh, who cares if she mispronounced a word. I've heard her say that word correctly many times. This happens sometimes when people are reading. It's not like, say, believing Guam could capsize from putting too many people on it.

Yes, it's embarrassing, but you get older and you care less about this stuff. She's no mensa member, but so what. Having sensible policies is really all that matters. Obama is very intelligent and an excellent speaker but he was a disaster. Hell, Mao was educated in Europe and was one of the most evil, despicable characters in the history of the planet.

And aren't something like 90% of Congressman lawyers now anyway?
 

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This is the average person who is a Congressman in our country.

Can't even pronounce the word "indict."

Left and Right.

This is the average brain power of a Congressperson.

This is why Washington is broken. It's become a fashion show and pandering contest. You get fringe idiots and people who are elected on their ability to kiss babies. That's it.

I mean..... I hate to say it, but..... maybe you should have to have a law degree to be a member of Congress.

That would solve some issues. Never would happen, but at least you'd weed out the absolute morons.
Kamala Harris has a law degree...

But I don't dislike her because of her intelligence. I dislike her because I think she does whatever it takes to better herself and has no concern for what happens to other people.
 

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Kamala Harris has a law degree...

But I don't dislike her because of her intelligence. I dislike her because I think she does whatever it takes to better herself and has no concern for what happens to other people.
Damn you just described like every politician.
 

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Ways that Trump is better than Biden:
  • Foreign policy accomplishments were way better (middle east agreements, countries recognizing Israel, relocating US embassy)
  • No wars (I think his craziness actually influenced other nations to behave)
  • Taxes lower
  • Energy Independence
  • Social justice nonsense was kicked to the curb
  • Supreme Court justices
  • Attacking the media in public, while pathetic, is still way better and less pathetic than attacking powerless citizen groups
  • Was actually right about Covid and how we should handle it, despite the early mockery from the press
If you believe everything that came out of the prolific liar's mouth, then yes, he was negotiating world peace. Unfortunately for you, what he says and what is real are always worlds apart. His only foreign policy moves were to roll anything back that Obama did, like the Iran nuclear deal, or anything that would benefit him personally, like his deal with Saudi Arabia. I've yet to hear anything since about that supposed $110B arms deal he made with them, unless you count the $2B his son-in-law collected from them.

Countries recognizing Israel? Seriously? How's that going today? He moved the embassy? So what. Symbolic move at the most. Most of the world's leadership snickered at it, except for maybe Guatemala.

My taxes aren't lower, I don't know wtf you are going by. Not able to deduct my mortage interest is a kicker even though my home was 2/3 paid off at the time. He lowered the taxes of those who he wants to be considered as, the "elites".

Energy independence? Well, we've been importing oil since the 40's, so there's that. But if you mean we export MORE than we import, well yes, in fact we do, but we started doing that in 2019. Not a Trump accomplishment.

Define social justice, please. I take it you mean minorities were allowed to be beaten to death and he said there was no problem here. If that's the case, then what you say is true.

Attacking the media? I guess you mean he and his administration providing "alternate facts" and such, or leading the public on with a health care plan that was always going to be revealed "in two weeks, and it will be the best plan in the world".

His plan for covid was the same as it has been for anything that might make him look bad... deny, deny, deny. Remember "it will go away, like the flu"? How did that work out? He only went with Warp Speed after being pushed to do it by people who were actual doctors/scientists. Did many of them overreact with the shuttdowns, mask mandates, etc? Of course. But his inaction/trying to downplay it resulted in having to throw trillions of dollars at it which I think more than anything the cause of the inflation we see still today.

Ways that Biden is better than Trump:
  • Embarrasses us with senility instead of the ridiculous things he says (you can't understand most of the crazy shit that Biden would say)
  • He's not combative against the media, only against harmless fringe conservatives like the prepper crowd
  • Isn't under constant assault on fabricated charges from a complicit media and justice department
Name ONE fucking policy achievement that Biden has done better than Trump, Irv.

Name fucking ONE.
I think you have me mistaken with someone who needs to defend Biden. He could raise my dead mother next week but a vote for him is still a vote for Harris.

Biden can't even get done things that the Right would or MIGHT agree with if they negotiated, like decriminalization of marijuana, student loan discharge in bankruptcy codification, electric car initiatives that would boost business (I don't mean a "Green New Deal," which is essentially a socialist paradigm shift, but actually pushing policies that encourage business and growth in "green" energy formats), etc.

He can't do anything. Trump got shit done.
Already addressed your fantasies above.

President. Trump is old but at least he's still with it.
:lol
 

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My taxes aren't lower, I don't know wtf you are going by. Not able to deduct my mortage interest is a kicker even though my home was 2/3 paid off at the time. He lowered the taxes of those who he wants to be considered as, the "elites".
Your 2.25 million dollar or more home may make you an elite...
 

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