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Yeah you can't cut Lawrence with his contract anyway. Just thinking out loud. But yeah it's probably time to start looking for his replacement unless Golston develops into it. Nothing against Lawrence I still like him and want him opposite Gregory. But his cap figures for the next few years are pretty ugly. 27 mil next season I think? After that is the year to cut him when you can save 18 mil on the cap.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think you actually could cut him next year. His dead cap money is 19 million, but his cap hit is 27 million so you'd save 8 million by cutting him. Could also restructure.
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think you actually could cut him next year. His dead cap money is 19 million, but his cap hit is 27 million so you'd save 8 million by cutting him. Could also restructure.
That's what I see too. I figured 19 mil in dead cap would be too much for the team to stomach. And 8 mil for her services would seem pretty reasonable next year. But just my guess.
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think you actually could cut him next year. His dead cap money is 19 million, but his cap hit is 27 million so you'd save 8 million by cutting him. Could also restructure.
Yea we could save $8 million just by cutting him in the offseason. I'd prefer not to cut bait on him just yet, assuming he comes back and plays well in the 2nd half of the season, so I'd prefer a "below market" extension for a guy who is still in his prime that could cut his cap numbers down significantly over the next 2-3 years.
 

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DE/edge rusher is one of my top priorities in the draft this year anyway so it's natural to be thinking of moving away from Lawrence in a year or two, which would open up a huge amount of space.

That's why I said earlier that we just need to keep our top guys now, do whatever it takes to manipulate the cap for the next 12-24 months, and then let the rest work itself out through attrition/cuts.

Lawrence only has 2 years left on his deal anyway, one option might be to extend him at a significantly lower rate (10-15/year), with the carrot being more guaranteed money, and the benefit to the team being that we could tack another 3-4 years onto his deal and spread his cap hits out over several more years.

In effect we'd be taking the 2 years remaining on his deal (with cap hits of 27 and 29 million), tacking on 3/45 on top of that (which is mostly a bargain for a player of his caliber) and then taking his 2022 base salary of 19 million and spreading it out over 5 years.

Obviously Lawrence would have to be on board, which I'd assume he would be given that he's injured right now and he'd be getting more guaranteed money, but by doing that we could save at least $13-15 million against the 2022 cap alone.
I’d be on board with redoing Lawrence’s contract, with the idea of drafting his replacement and using Lawrence as a situational rusher as he gets a bit deeper into his age and contract.
I’d like to see Dallas keep Shultz, Gregory, and Gallup. I really don’t see why they can’t, tons of money tied up in contracts they could restructure. That’s what Goof Son is for, right?
 

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I’d be on board with redoing Lawrence’s contract, with the idea of drafting his replacement and using Lawrence as a situational rusher as he gets a bit deeper into his age and contract.
I’d like to see Dallas keep Shultz, Gregory, and Gallup. I really don’t see why they can’t, tons of money tied up in contracts they could restructure. That’s what Goof Son is for, right?
Yea basically.
 

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Gregory, Gregory, and Gregory. And then Gallup, space permitting.

Those are the priorities.

I think the team can develop any solid TE skillset so long as the QB, OL, RB, and WR's remain the strengths that they are.

Schultz is nothing special, and I mean no disrespect. He has come up clutch for us, but this is a side-effect of Dak and everyone else more than Schultz himself.

Deep zone coverage is occupied trying to stop our WRs and LB's are biting play action to stop our RB's. This leaves Schultz able to sneak into the flats and spaces in between short and deep zones.

Then Dak finds the open guy, that's his way.

Schultz is nowhere near the primary weapon, ala Kelce.
 

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I dont think Gregory shoots the moon, he's too grateful to Jer for the many opportunities given when weed was outlawed. Gregory is 28 and in prime form, the perfect complement to DLaw and his fat contract. DLaw, Gregory and Parsons coming for your QB, just wow.
I don’t buy this. We aren’t getting a discount. Why would his agent and him pass an opportunity of a lifetime to cash in?
 

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I don’t buy this. We aren’t getting a discount. Why would his agent and him pass an opportunity of a lifetime to cash in?
dude, he's indebted to ole Jer. And Jer usually pays well.
 

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I don’t buy this. We aren’t getting a discount. Why would his agent and him pass an opportunity of a lifetime to cash in?

I don't think he'll take pennies on the dollar, but it's a unique situation and I think there's a decent chance given the circumstances that he'll take a deal like Tyron and Lael where it's really good money but a little below market value.
 
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I also think Schultz is smart enough to know he can make more sustained bank in Dallas than say some cap rich shithole team like the Jaguars. He would really need to be on an offense with other weapons and a good QB.
 

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I also think Schultz is smart enough to know he can make more sustained bank in Dallas than say some cap rich shithole team like the Jaguars. He would really need to be on an offense with other weapons and a good QB.
Yea, just look at Austin Hooper, got paid by Cleveland and now has faded into obscurity even though Cleveland is one of the better offenses in the league when fully healthy.

Staying attached to Dak, and the chemistry he has with him, and these WR's, who open up the field for him, will prolong his career and production. I think he's smart enough to know that is worth more than an extra $2-3 million per year on a contract that could easily just end up being 2-3 years if he goes somewhere else and gets cut after not living up to expectations.
 
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Put it this way, in no uncertain terms do we allow a Schultz deal to fuck with resigning Gregory. These two aren't in the same galaxy.

Again, I don't believe anyone here said they'd take Schultz over Gregory. I certainly didn't. You're deflecting.

The post of mine you quoted was about you saying Schultz isn't anything special and had nothing to do with Gregory.
 
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