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Osa doesn't strike me as the type that will disappoint you if you extend him like some players. I think the dude has always been a consistent and hard working guy. Not someone who just suddenly put the work in when he is in a contract season.
Right, that's a big selling point on him, that he is one of the hardest workers and most serious guys on the team. He won't fall to the Dick Motta theory and quit his job when he wins the lottery. But is he truly that good?

And why does it seem like this team is the only one who when they hit on a good player has to pay them like they're one of the best?

I do hope we keep him, but I also pretty much know if we do we'll overpay him.
 

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Say that reminds me, remember when we signed his poor used up ass?
 

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I just can't help but feel this is a bad fit for our understaffed front 7 and won't use Micah the way he is most effective.

Hope I am wrong.

I think you might be right. I wouldn't be surprised at all if our defense is kind of bad again next year. I just don't think they're going to commit enough resources to upgrade the talent.
 

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I think you might be right. I wouldn't be surprised at all if our defense is kind of bad again next year. I just don't think they're going to commit enough resources to upgrade the talent.
I doubt they are bad. But if they don't put anything new into the defense I could see them as mediocre. I think the nice thing about Eberflus is that I think his scheme is going to at least give you a steady, average defense. Something in that 14th to 18th range. And I think with the right additions, draft picks or retentions we have a top 10 defense. But I also think his scheme may limit him from ever running a top 1-3 defense in the NFL.

But I guess that all depends on what you consider good or bad. I've heard some talk about Dallas's defense last year like they were really good. But our defense statistically last year was not good. Second to last in points given up. 28th in yards. So if you look at the total season, the defense was awful. They were just a lot better once Parsons got back. And things were trending in the right directions.

The defense will be better next season. I feel confident saying that.
 

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I doubt they are bad. But if they don't put anything new into the defense I could see them as mediocre. I think the nice thing about Eberflus is that I think his scheme is going to at least give you a steady, average defense. Something in that 14th to 18th range. And I think with the right additions, draft picks or retentions we have a top 10 defense. But I also think his scheme may limit him from ever running a top 1-3 defense in the NFL.

But I guess that all depends on what you consider good or bad. I've heard some talk about Dallas's defense last year like they were really good. But our defense statistically last year was not good. Second to last in points given up. 28th in yards. So if you look at the total season, the defense was awful. They were just a lot better once Parsons got back. And things were trending in the right directions.

The defense will be better next season. I feel confident saying that.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I suspect they'll be similar to last year. Overall somewhat bad, but some games will look pretty good and some games they will give up 40+ with basically no defensive stops at all.
 

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Yes, that's what I'm saying. I suspect they'll be similar to last year. Overall somewhat bad, but some games will look pretty good and some games they will give up 40+ with basically no defensive stops at all.
I'd be surprised if there was more than one, maybe two games where they're as bad as they were in the Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit games.

This assumes that they don't let basically all of their internal defensive FA's walk with literally no replacements except for like a 3rd rounder, which I guess is always possible with these assholes.
 

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I'd be surprised if there was more than one, maybe two games where they're as bad as they were in the Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit games.
There should be zero, so even 1 or two games like that is bad.


This assumes that they don't let basically all of their internal defensive FA's walk with literally no replacements except for like a 3rd rounder, which I guess is always possible with these assholes.

Yeah, I don't think we can assume anything with these idiots. I was pretty sure they'd be serious about addressing RB last year. And yet...
 

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There should be zero, so even 1 or two games like that is bad.
The KC Chiefs defense gave up 30 or more three times and 29 once, and they're in the super bowl. It happens sometimes.
 

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The KC Chiefs defense gave up 30 or more three times and 29 once, and they're in the super bowl. It happens sometimes.

30 happens sure, but I'm talking about games like NO and Detroit when we gave up 44 and 47.
 

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30 happens sure, but I'm talking about games like NO and Detroit when we gave up 44 and 47.
Once you hit 30, it's still a collapse and a game you are going to lose far more often than you are going to win. Now, it's not a guarantee you lose those games. Hell, teams have won games they've given up over 40. But that was my point. That those kind of collapses sometimes happen on even good teams. That saying it should happen zero times is a pretty hard thing to attain.
 

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I think you might be right. I wouldn't be surprised at all if our defense is kind of bad again next year. I just don't think they're going to commit enough resources to upgrade the talent.
They could sign Odighizuwa and then dab their mouths as they push away from the table.

They need bodies at the position, badly.
 

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They could sign Odighizuwa and then dab their mouths as they push away from the table.

They need bodies at the position, badly.
It's a great draft for DT. But much like RB we probably need 2 in the draft. Even if you resign Osa it's still a giant draft need.
 

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It's a great draft for DT. But much like RB we probably need 2 in the draft. Even if you resign Osa it's still a giant draft need.
It actually is a better than average DT class. Maybe not the 3-T stud but some better than Taco Mazis well into Day 3.
 

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It actually is a better than average DT class. Maybe not the 3-T stud but some better than Taco Mazis well into Day 3.
It's why we should go after the best of them, even if Jeanty falls to 12.

This is the most insane RB draft I've ever, ever seen. Maybe not at the very top, but the depth is crazy.

That infusion of rushing talent is going to swing the pendulum back towards the running game for several years, and if we don't have the DT's to help defend against them we're going to stay bad
 

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It's why we should go after the best of them, even if Jeanty falls to 12.

This is the most insane RB draft I've ever, ever seen. Maybe not at the very top, but the depth is crazy.

That infusion of rushing talent is going to swing the pendulum back towards the running game for several years, and if we don't have the DT's to help defend against them we're going to stay bad
The strength of the DT class is in the 25-60ish range, if we take one in the first it'd feel like kind of jumping the gun unless we trade down. RB is similar but there's a strong chance the top RB (and consensus top 5ish prospect) will be there whereas the DT version (Graham) should be long gone.

I'd take Graham over Jeanty but there's almost no chance he's available. There's an argument that maybe we should take McMillan or Warren and leave RB/DL until the next 2 rounds, but if Jeanty is there I think you have to take him as the BPA.
 

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The strength of the DT class is in the 25-60ish range, if we take one in the first it'd feel like kind of jumping the gun unless we trade down. RB is similar but there's a strong chance the top RB (and consensus top 5ish prospect) will be there whereas the DT version (Graham) should be long gone.

I'd take Graham over Jeanty but there's almost no chance he's available. There's an argument that maybe we should take McMillan or Warren and leave RB/DL until the next 2 rounds, but if Jeanty is there I think you have to take him as the BPA.
The draft matches up well with our massive need at RB and DT. WR not as much. There are receivers I like but it's thinner than recent years.
 
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