Archer: Cowboys now in must-have mode at cornerback in the draft

[Smitty]

As a Tuna disciple shouldn't you adhere to his "Planet Theory" and pick [STRIKE]Taco[/STRIKE] Charlton over Harris?

Troll bait not worth a response.

 

[ravidubey]

This just isn't true. I can show you multiple examples of really good pass defenses last year that had worse pass rushes than ours. Hell look no further then the New York Giants in our own division. They had a far superior pass defense but had fewer sacks than Dallas.


Ultimately I do agree that pass rushers are more important than your DBs. But even more importantly I look at the talent in this draft and frankly I just think you're better off with a first round pass rush and a second round DB as opposed to a first round DB and a second round pass rusher. I just think there is a big drop off in terms of pass rushers after Carl Lawson there is a drop off at DE.

See this makes way too much sense and spits in the face of the hyperbolic argument that CBs are "bit players" who are less important than punters.

You need talent at every level of defense, and the draft is about talent first.

 

[22cowboysfan22]

Everything I've heard said Charlton is possibly a better 3-4 OLB.

Odd.

I haven't heard a single expert / draft scout say that Charlton is a fit at all as a 3-4 OLB. He runs a 4.9 40, he doesn't have the speed to play OLB in a 3-4 scheme. I have heard some that think he's a better fit as a 3-4 DE, though.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I haven't heard a single expert / draft scout say that Charlton is a fit at all as a 3-4 OLB. He runs a 4.9 40, he doesn't have the speed to play OLB in a 3-4 scheme. I have heard some that think he's a better fit as a 3-4 DE, though.

Which is equally retarded and a waste of his skills.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I have a feeling Charlton has low SPARQ score and probably we won't pick him as a result.

Just as well, since ii get a bust vibe from him.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

As this forum's resident Michigan man, Charlton is a fine pro prospect. He has a lot of areas to improve on, but I feel that he's a much better prospect than a guy like Harris.

 

[Angrymesscan]

It seems like every year Mizzou sends a couple of highly touted pass rushers to the draft, but I don't recall any of them really setting the league on fire...

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It seems like every year Mizzou sends a couple of highly touted pass rushers to the draft, but I don't recall any of them really setting the league on fire...

Shane Ray is pretty good.

 

[boozeman]

Shane Ray is pretty good.

Markus Golden is not bad either. Harris may be more in line with him. A bunch of draftniks are very negative on him, but the comparisons to Michael Sam are just wrong.

 

[boozeman]

The two rushers I am warming up to the most at the moment are T.J. Watt and Derek Rivers. Barnett is the one I hope makes it down to us, which is doubtful.

Pretty much convinced unless some highly regarded rusher "drops" to us and makes our decision harder, we are unfortunately going to take a corner and then end up with a dice roll like Demarcus Lawrence.

 

[marsbennett]

The two rushers I am warming up to the most at the moment are T.J. Watt and Derek Rivers. Barnett is the one I hope makes it down to us, which is doubtful.

Pretty much convinced unless some highly regarded rusher "drops" to us and makes our decision harder, we are unfortunately going to take a corner and then end up with a dice roll like Demarcus Lawrence.

Heaven forbid

 

[Simpleton]

The two rushers I am warming up to the most at the moment are T.J. Watt and Derek Rivers. Barnett is the one I hope makes it down to us, which is doubtful.

Pretty much convinced unless some highly regarded rusher "drops" to us and makes our decision harder, we are unfortunately going to take a corner and then end up with a dice roll like Demarcus Lawrence.

Could be a safety instead of a CB, which I'd fine more palatable.

 

[boozeman]

Could be a safety instead of a CB, which I'd fine more palatable.

I would happily take Peppers or Budda Baker at 28. I bet you we wouldn't though. Aside from Lynch, Marinelli has never valued safeties.

 

[ravidubey]

Marinelli has never valued safeties.

This guy needs to stay out of the draft room.

I can't stand the way he undervalues talent because it supposedly doesn't fit his overrated model.

 

[townsend]

This guy needs to stay out of the draft room.

I can't stand the way he undervalues talent because it supposedly doesn't fit his overrated model.

We got good value on Collins and Brown last year. Jury's out on Tapper and Smith. But I don't want to change very much from our 2016 draft strategy.

The worst thing we have going in the draft with defensive players is we keep taking high risk players who keep getting hurt or suspended or both.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I would happily take Peppers or Budda Baker at 28. I bet you we wouldn't though. Aside from Lynch, Marinelli has never valued safeties.

We took Byron Jones in the first. And I agree with you on those two players in the first.

 

[ravidubey]

The worst thing we have going in the draft with defensive players is we keep taking high risk players who keep getting hurt or suspended or both.

We are stubborn when it comes to drafting the non "quick-twitch" player in early rounds, so we take risks or waste draft picks trading up.

Michael Brockers, Bobby Wagner, Kony Ealy, Trai Turner, and anyone-- fucking *anyone*-- besides Randy Gregory would have made for a damned fine roster. Even Jack over Jaylon.

We never learn.

Sure sign of a loser is the guy who consistently passes over a sure thing for even a minuscule chance for a huge strike.

 

[NoDak]

Peppers doesn't do it for me. At least, not to the level that people are fawning over him for. He's a great athlete, sure. And plays all over. Good for him. But where is the production? 3 sacks 1 INT, 0 FR 0 FF. For his entire college career. There are maybe 5-6 guys I'd prefer at safety over him.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Peppers doesn't do it for me. At least, not to the level that people are fawning over him for. He's a great athlete, sure. And plays all over. Good for him. But where is the production? 3 sacks 1 INT, 0 FR 0 FF. For his entire college career. There are maybe 5-6 guys I'd prefer at safety over him.

I very much agree.

 

[NoDak]

I very much agree.