2025 Random NFL Stuff Thread…

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Emmitt hung around 5 years too long also, while you're bullshitting.

Here’s the criteria. Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Bruce Smith, John Randle, Ronnie Lott were all Hall of Famers before their final 5 years. Frank Gore wasn’t.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

By the way, you can certainly tell the story of the NFL without mentioning Gore.

When I think of Gore the only thing I think about is longevity. I don't think about those seasons where he was the best RB in the NFL. I don't think about his dominance as a RB.

All I think about is holy shit, that guy was a good player for an extremely long time in the NFL. Which is impressive considering the injury concerns out of college.

But that's not HOF worthy. But no one really gives a shit about my opinion. Maybe some think longevity is a worthy criteria for the HOF.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Emmitt hung around 5 years too long also, while you're bullshitting.

What are we doing.


"Emmitt Smith won four NFL rushing titles during his legendary career with the Dallas Cowboys, leading the league in rushing yards in 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1995, making him tied with Barry Sanders, O.J. Simpson, and Eric Dickerson for the second-most rushing titles in the Super Bowl era, behind only Jim Brown's eight."

 

[Genghis Khan]

Here’s the criteria. Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Bruce Smith, John Randle, Ronnie Lott were all Hall of Famers before their final 5 years. Frank Gore wasn’t.

Exactly.

 

[Simpleton]

I don't think you need to mention Frank Gore to tell the story of the league, but I'd say the same about plenty of guys who have got in recently.

 

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Frank Gore gained 3,960 WGAS yards his final five seasons.

Fred Taylor not a HOFer, but add those WGAS 3,960 yards and he is now above Barry Sanders on all-time rushing list. Is he a HOFer now?

 

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I don't think you need to mention Frank Gore to tell the story of the league, but I'd say the same about plenty of guys who have got in recently.

Sam Mills, Edgerrin James, Sterling Sharpe

I still don’t think Jerome Bettis is a HOFer, but he’s higher on the list than those three

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Exactly.

Frank Gore's best seasons weren't as good as Zekes best seasons. He just had far more longevity.

 

[Simpleton]

Sam Mills, Edgerrin James, Sterling Sharpe

I still don’t think Jerome Bettis is a HOFer, but he’s higher on the list than those three

I feel like Mills and Sharpe in particular got in due to personal tragedy, the league has made the HoF a joke (similar to most things the league put their thumbs on) with their revisionist woke bullshit.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Sterling Sharpe is a bigger joke than Gore would be.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Sterling Sharpe is a bigger joke than Gore would be.

And this is why I won't be surprised if Gore makes it in. Some will just look at the final stats and say, hey, those are better than player x, y and z already in the HOF.

 

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Lots of deliberation over Gale Sayers because of his short career.

Sixty years later, though, if we’re educating our kids about that era, that highlight reel is replete with Sayers highlights.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

No love for Vinatieri?

 

[Genghis Khan]

And this is why I won't be surprised if Gore makes it in. Some will just look at the final stats and say, hey, those are better than player x, y and z already in the HOF.

I'm certain he'll get in, but I wouldn't do it.

 

[Genghis Khan]

No love for Vinatieri?

Not sure about this year but he'll probably get in at some point and he probably deserves it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No love for Vinatieri?

We hate kickers

 

[bbgun]

A couple things.

Monk won the super bowl three times as a prominent weapon.

Monk led the league in receiving yards in 1984.

Monk led the league in receptions in 1980, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1989, and 1991.

I'm well aware that he caught a lot of passes and retired as the all-time reception leader. I'm talking about a signature catch.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm well aware that he caught a lot of passes and retired as the all-time reception leader. I'm talking about a signature catch.

Your argument seemed to be, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you can justify putting Gore in because Monk is in and in your opinion Monk doesn't deserve to be in either. So since the criteria is weakened, that justifies Gore.

I'm countering by saying, whether you think Monk deserves it or not, he has a much better argument for inclusion than Gore does.

 

[bbgun]

Your argument seemed to be, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you can justify putting Gore in because Monk is in and in your opinion Monk doesn't deserve to be in either. So since the criteria is weakened, that justifies Gore.

I'm countering by saying, whether you think Monk deserves it or not, he has a much better argument for inclusion than Gore does.

Hard to compare players who played different positions. For instance, Gore was subjected to much more punishment than Monk. Also, Monk only led the league in receptions in 1984. Not sure where you got those other years.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I'm certain he'll get in, but I wouldn't do it.

That's where I'm at. Meanwhile a guy like Woodson still waits because there aren't stats to explain what he meant to our defense while we were winning Superbowls.