2024 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Texas Ace]

Not sure I would be excited if he did. I just get the feeling the guy won't put his heart in it. He is busy with 23 year old models. I sort of feel like he wouldn't have the energy and drive to change the culture here.

There's nothing I've seen from him in the past year that suggests to me that his heart wouldn't be into it.

He's one of those coaching lifers who wants to do it until they die. There's a reason why you see him messing around with younger women because the women his age can't tolerate how much time a guy like that devotes to his craft.

That's not the trait someone possesses who isn't fully vested in their job.

 

[Texas Ace]

I think if he comes here it will be a giant shit stain on his legacy. I think the toxic culture of this team is incurable without a change in ownership.

I don't think that's entirely true either.

I think that's true when it comes to the average coach or someone with no balls like a Garrett or some other schmuck who's just happy to have the job, but that was absolutely not the case with Bill Parcells.

And just as it was the case with Parcells, Jerry isn't going after a guy like Bill Belichick without understanding what he's getting into. He knows he can't do the things with him that he did with Garrett or even with McCarthy for that matter.

There are very few coaches in this world that Jerry would be willing to make some concessions for, and I believe Belichick is one of those coaches.

Jerry is never going to stop being Jerry, but with the right guy in place you at least get a quieter and less influential Jerry, and that's what I believe would happen if we were to hire Belichick just as it did with Parcells.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

There's nothing I've seen from him in the past year that suggests to me that his heart wouldn't be into it.

He's one of those coaching lifers who wants to do it until they die. There's a reason why you see him messing around with younger women because the women his age can't tolerate how much time a guy like that devotes to his craft.

That's not the trait someone possesses who isn't fully vested in their job.

On the Manningcast bit, he knew every player, every coach, everything on the field. No doubt to me he's still into it enough.

 

[bbgun]

He still needs talent. We put up a shitload of points on the Pats the last two times we played them because he didn't have enough good players. He'd face the same problem in Dallas. Smoke and mirror schemes aren't enough (see: Zimmer).

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He still needs talent. We put up a shitload of points on the Pats the last two times we played them because he didn't have enough good players. He'd face the same problem in Dallas. Smoke and mirror schemes aren't enough (see: Zimmer).

No doubt. And with all the money we're paying Dak and CD and soon Micah, how can you overhaul a defense well enough?

That's another reason I don't think he'd come here. I think there are better situations for him.

But then I don't think Jerry and Stephen want to make the concessions he'd need either... including a huge salary.

 

[Texas Ace]

On the Manningcast bit, he knew every player, every coach, everything on the field. No doubt to me he's still into it enough.

Dude, that lives for the game.

I guarantee you he's miserable at home most days wondering what the hell he's going to do with all this free time he has on his hands.

Remember that his dad was a coach, and he followed in his footsteps right behind him and then he brought his own son into it.

Again, that's not the type of individual that loses their passion or interest for whatever profession it is that they've devoted so much of their life to.

If he comes here, I have zero doubt that he'll be 100% dedicated to the job.

 

[Texas Ace]

He still needs talent. We put up a shitload of points on the Pats the last two times we played them because he didn't have enough good players. He'd face the same problem in Dallas. Smoke and mirror schemes aren't enough (see: Zimmer).

Of course, but at least with him you get someone who can be honest with the Jones' about what their team needs are and also has the skins on the wall to get them to both respect his opinion and provide him with the tools he asks for to do the job.

 

[Simpleton]

He still needs talent. We put up a shitload of points on the Pats the last two times we played them because he didn't have enough good players. He'd face the same problem in Dallas. Smoke and mirror schemes aren't enough (see: Zimmer).

We have like 8 Pro Bowl players under 30 and most of them are actually good, the problem is culture, especially defensively where I assume he'd be most involved.

 

[Simpleton]

I'm completely aboard the Bill Belichick train.

I get that he's older, but I don't think the guy has forgotten how to coach and I certainly don't believe that he has forgotten how to manage a football team and build a winning culture.

As I said before, the key for him is to bring in good assistants. If he does that then he has great chance to succeed in Dallas.

Belichick is my top choice because why not, after that just give me some hotshot OC from the Shannahan tree. Kubiak would work fine but I need to see more than two games.

I think Detroit's OC is overrated but I suppose he'd be fine too, but he's the only non-Shannahan/McVay OC I'd even consider.

 

[Genghis Khan]

He still needs talent. We put up a shitload of points on the Pats the last two times we played them because he didn't have enough good players. He'd face the same problem in Dallas. Smoke and mirror schemes aren't enough (see: Zimmer).

That's true of every coach.

 

[bbgun]

We have like 8 Pro Bowl players under 30 and most of them are actually good

I was talking about defense, which is his specialty. The cupboard is hardly full in Dallas. After Parsons and Diggs and maybe Bland, you either got question marks or guys who flat out can't play due to age or lack of ability.

 

[Genghis Khan]

That's another reason I don't think he'd come here. I think there are better situations for him.

I'm not so sure. Usually teams looking for a HC are like the Giants.

But then I don't think Jerry and Stephen want to make the concessions he'd need either... including a huge salary.

The salary would be the big issue for sure.

 

[Simpleton]

I was talking about defense, which is his specialty. The cupboard is hardly full in Dallas. After Parsons and Diggs and maybe Bland, you either got question marks or guys who flat out can't play due to age or lack of ability.

That's true but it also might be sort of appealing to him, a blank slate that he can mold with a few elite players that he can mix in to how he wants the defense structured.

I don't think it'd take him more than two off seasons to put together a near elite defense.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I was talking about defense, which is his specialty. The cupboard is hardly full in Dallas. After Parsons and Diggs and maybe Bland, you either got question marks or guys who flat out can't play due to age or lack of ability.

I mean starting with 3 young probowlers/elite defensive position players is a pretty good base to start with. The defense has young talent beyond that too. His biggest problem is he can't pick players for shit. And I don't think he can help on offense at all so he would have to bring with him a legit offensive coach. Not the shit he has had with the Pats.

 

[Texas Ace]

His biggest problem is he can't pick players for shit

True, but he can still scheme the hell out of one.

And the good thing is that we do a pretty good job already of identifying players in the early rounds.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

True, but he can still scheme the hell out of one.

And the good thing is that we do a pretty good job already of identifying players in the early rounds.

Yeah he absolutely can scheme them up on defense. The number of elite players the Patriots had on defense who left, sucked and eventually came back was pretty large. He certainly knows how to get the most out of guys on that side of the ball.

 

[bbgun]

God help me, I agree with NoDik. Bill ain't coming here. He could've been our coach this year and Jerry still didn't bite. All it would've cost him is paying Fat Mike one year to do nothing. Then there's the whole "walking on eggshells" thing. He ain't going back to that.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But, for instance, on MNF he complained many many times about the Eagles' tackling. Is Jerry going to give him the latitude to run harder practices? Because that means your stars have a chance of getting hurt, and nothing terrifies Jerry more than that.

I don't think Jerry is desperate enough to give a coach that much power again. He did it with Parcells because we were coming of three straight 5-11s and he needed that new stadium. Unless this team does a 5-11 -- which I doubt -- I can't see him walking on eggshells again.

Edit -- Dammit, I swear I hadn't seen that eggshells comment when I posted.

 

[Texas Ace]

All it would've cost him is paying Fat Mike one year to do nothing.

To you that's "all" Jerry had to do, but Jerry hates doing that.

Think about it.... In all the years he's owned the team he's only fired a guy in-season ONE time, and that was Wade Phillips after he started 1-7.

 

[bbgun]

Dammit, I swear I hadn't seen that eggshells comment when I posted.