2023 Season | Week 6 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Chargers | 10/15/2023

[Simpleton]

No, it is not.

I know your thing is to downplay how good our rivals actually are and always have an optimistic outlook towards the Cowboys, but there is no damn way Dak Prescott goes in for Purdy and the 49ers get identical production.

Not a chance.

In 4 years with Garoppolo they should've beaten Mahomes in the Super Bowl while going to OT in the NFCC with the eventual champs two years later, it's 100% true. Purdy doesn't do shit that's special outside of the scheme except get through his reads quickly and throw with decent accuracy, which is often times a product of the scheme to begin with.

Do you honestly think if you dropped Purdy into Dallas that we'd somehow magically turn into a 14 win team?

There is a better chance that I sprout wings and fly to Dallas for the Rams game in two weeks.

 

[Texas Ace]

For the record, does Micah Parsons’ sack count as clutch?

@Texas Ace

Hell fucking yeah.

That right there is what we didn't see enough of from Ware.

Shit, Anthony fucking Spencer had more 2 min drill sacks than Ware.

As amazing a talent as Ware was, he sure left a lot to be desired in end-game situations.

 

[Simpleton]

I know people were pissed about the Niner game, but it was ridiculous how much Moore was built up last week.

Anyway, what did you see going on with our OL? Anytime you get whipped that badly it's not just Xs and Os, it's effort or people hurt or indecision or something. I'm guessing Zack and Biadasz are still not healthy enough to be themselves at all. Probably Tryon also,

Really hoping the bye lets some of these guys get healed up so they can play better, because that was unacceptable.

Edit, pretty much stamped again

I probably won't watch the all-22 of the OL until tomorrow or Thursday but from just watching the telecast it looked like they were very often confused on when to climb to the second level vs. when to stick to their block on a combo, in the run game at least. In pass protection it looked like a lot of confusion on twists/stunts, when to pass off guys and such.

So basically communication issues and a lack of shared understanding of how to handle assignments.

 

[shoop]

That's true too, but they also don't want the traffic in their face when they're trying to catch the ball.

I mean, it's football. You're supposed to block the guy. You shouldn't be letting him push you around wherever he wants you to go.

The blocker was late getting into position. He should have just stayed out of the way. It created unnecessary chaos

 

[p1_]

I seriously want to see Brooks get some of his snaps going forward. I see him as a similar player -- not the best pure speed but tall and lanky -- except I think Brooks is tougher and wants it more. He really seems like a ballplayer to me. You see him out there blocking and playing hard on special teams. Gallup I feel loses concentration and gets lazy doing his job.

Tolbert as well. We have guys who can offer more than Gallup.

 

[shoop]

Dude played his ass off. He was like that in Game 1 as well. If he can get consistent we will have something there.

 

[p1_]

 

[L.T. Fan]

Yeah, it was like some of those Romo performances where he was just making shit up as he went along and won in spite of the offensive design and playcalling.

It was easily his best performance of the season so I hope he got some confidence back with this one.

What I observed with Prescott in the SD game was that his execution was better and sometimes exceptional when he was playing on instinct. Where he seemed to have the most difficulty was trying to execute the play calling by McCarthy. His plays, especially when it was 2nd or 3rd and long,required a lot of time reading the field and kept Prescott stationery too long. Prescott was sacked a great deal in these situations or the window for reviever selection was already gone and the pass was in jeopardy of being intercepted. McCarty needs a better system because he virtually gives up possession because ihe almost always puts the scheme into long yardage for the receivers or a substantial run after the catch. Dak just plays better when he goes on instinct mode.

 

[Simpleton]

Which of these is Purdy vs. Garoppolo last year?

A: 67.2% completion, 7.9 YPA, 16 TD's/4 INT's
B: 67.1% completion, 8.1 YPA, 13 TD's/4 INT's

In 2019 when SF went to the Super Bowl Garoppolo put up 69.1% completion, 8.4 YPA and 27 TD's/13 INT's.

This season Purdy is on pace for 67.5% completion, 8.6 YPA and 26-27 TD's/2-3 INT's, prorated over 16 games. That INT number is sure to jump a bit maybe up to 8-10.

But I'm sure if you put Dak, an objectively superior player to Garoppolo, in SF they'd just curl up into a ball and struggle to get to 10 wins.

The key takeaway here is that offensive football nowadays is extremely scheme dependent unless you have an HOF-caliber QB, and even then you see teams like Buffalo putzing around struggling to score 20 about 1/3rd of the time.

 

[Texas Ace]

What I observed with Prescott in the SD game was that his execution was better and sometimes exceptional when he was playing on instinct. Where he seemed to have the most difficulty was trying to execute the play calling by McCarthy. His plays, especially when it was 2nd or 3rd and long,required a lot of time reading the field and kept Prescott stationery too long. Prescott was sacked a great deal in these situations or the window for reviever selection was already gone and the pass was in jeopardy of being intercepted. McCarty needs a better system because he virtually gives up possession because ihe almost always puts the scheme into long yardage for the receivers or a substantial run after the catch. Dak just plays better when he goes on instinct mode.

I couldn't agree more, and I think that's why there's a correlation between him using his legs and playing better overall when he does.

I don't know what it is about him rushing a few times a game, but it's almost like it settles him and or gives him confidence.

It's happened enough times now that I don't think it's a coincidence whatsoever and that running with the ball improves his play as a passer.

 

[boozeman]

Dude played his ass off. He was like that in Game 1 as well. If he can get consistent we will have something there.

It is going to be tough to sustain at his size as we go deeper into the season.

 

[boozeman]

Even Jerry thought Fat Mike was a pussy.

 

[boozeman]

Zero doubt in my mind. They had robot actors planted in the stands there earlier this year.

 

[Simpleton]

Zero doubt in my mind. They had robot actors planted in the stands there earlier this year.

Yea I had the exact same thought, it's complete bullshit meant to generate moments that go viral on social media. It's completely fucking gross and the NFL is honestly just a disgusting entity in terms of the business/marketing side of things.

 

[boozeman]

Hell fucking yeah.

That right there is what we didn't see enough of from Ware.

Shit, Anthony fucking Spencer had more 2 min drill sacks than Ware.

As amazing a talent as Ware was, he sure left a lot to be desired in end-game situations.

You cannot take away that Saints game, man.

 

[boozeman]

Yea I had the exact same thought, it's complete bullshit meant to generate moments that go viral on social media. It's completely fucking gross and the NFL is honestly just a disgusting entity in terms of the business/marketing side of things.

The broadcast did not have to show her.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Looks more or less like what we saw last year, arguably even worse given that we had a more consistent run game.

A few nicely designed plays but the system as a whole isn't designed to build counters off counters, and overall there is a lack of imagination outside of a handful of pre-conceived play designs.

Our running game the last few years was more able to grind out the dirty yards than theirs is at the moment so I think that's the main difference, but I think seeing Moore run an offense with a so called elite QB talent should be eye opening for people.

I really miss the days when Callaham was here and we had a great and diverse running game.

 

[Simpleton]

The broadcast did not have to show her.

In what world do you think the broadcast of the game isn't completely integrated with the little side hustles the league is pushing?

If the woman was indeed a paid actor there is a 1000000% chance the broadcast knew that they should show her on camera multiple times.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yea I had the exact same thought, it's complete bullshit meant to generate moments that go viral on social media. It's completely fucking gross and the NFL is honestly just a disgusting entity in terms of the business/marketing side of things.

Diversity too... They haven't captured the female Asian demographic yet.

 

[data]

You cannot take away that Saints game, man.

Saints game = Rocky Marciano