**2023 Cowboys Pre-Draft Thread**

[Rev]

4 of 9.

Minus Sam Williams because it's too soon to tell. 4 solid NFL players out of 9?

Not good enough by far.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

4 of 9.

Minus Sam Williams because it's too soon to tell. 4 solid NFL players out of 9?

Not good enough by far.

Sam Williams has already done more than most of those busts. Maybe not more than Gregory but he had some moments here eventually. I guess Jaylon Smith did have his moments too. The end was just so bad.

 

[GShock]

I wonder who our injured reclamation project will be this year.

 

[mcnuttz]

I wonder who our injured reclamation project will be this year.

Hopefully they wait til the 5th or beyond for such a project.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Hopefully they wait til the 5th or beyond for such a project.

I'm ok with the USC guard in the fifth. Andrew Vorhees tore his ACL at the Combine. Redshirt him and add strength for a year.

 

[p1_]

 

[mcnuttz]

DeMarcus II

 

[Simpleton]

Lawrence obviously but if excluding him, Awuzie or Sam Williams.

 

[mcnuttz]

As much as we hate on #54, that 2018 season saw some pretty good LB play with he and rookie LVE.

 

[ravidubey]

As much as we hate on #54, that 2018 season saw some pretty good LB play with he and rookie LVE.

The formations were built around enabling him to run in a straight line without turning sharply

Needless to say rest of the NFL caught on while simultaneously Smith’s instincts for any other kind of play atrophied

 

[ravidubey]

Could just be the fact that most things nowadays are over hyped due to the nature of media and our society. Gotta instill a sense of urgency/immediacy.

Gibbs is the home run hitter, while Robinson has rare jump cut and lateral movement skills. Both have great vision.

Gibbs is definitely faster and while lighter by a considerable margin, packs it into a 5’9” frame.

Robinson looks like the total package though, including the frame for pass blocking.

A decade ago, both would be first round locks, but today you want that fifth year option for QB’s, Lineman, WRs, or truly special players at other positions.

But having the best RBs in the game for 4-5 years is also a factor here. Nothing can replace those rare yards only the best backs consistently gain on their own year after year

 

[p1_]

The formations were built around enabling him to run in a straight line without turning sharply

Needless to say rest of the NFL caught on while simultaneously Smith’s instincts for any other kind of play atrophied

Zero lateral mobility.

 

[boozeman]

Goof Son quote on 105.3.

You have Micah and Fowler and Demarcus Lawrence. Let's say you have a Nolan Smith sitting there in this draft. Would you want to add more to this current pass rush?"

"It goes back to... and certainly this has nothing to do with a specific player... this is a position, just a general philosophy of ours... is that's where you always do well, picking the very best player on your board and you just... from contracts that'll be coming up, injuries, all the things that are not foreseen, you know, to to pass on a player if you're sitting there picking and he's the best player on your board by a long shot, then I think that's where you can make your biggest mistakes. I don't think you say, 'Boy we've got five safeties that we love,' 'Boy, we got six pass rushers that we really like on our football team so we're just not even gonna grade the pass rushers this year because we don't need one.' That's just not how this works, and, boy, if we see a pass rusher that we think is unique that can really bring value to the table, drafting young guys who are going to be, you know, going to be around for four years, five years, you can't go wrong drafting players that you feel like can make a big difference on your football team, whether it's a pass rush or whether it's a safety, a corner, a quarterback. All those are situations where if you feel like they're great football players and the best player on your board then you have to stay with that now."

 

[Simpleton]

Goof Son quote on 105.3.

You have Micah and Fowler and Demarcus Lawrence. Let's say you have a Nolan Smith sitting there in this draft. Would you want to add more to this current pass rush?"

"It goes back to... and certainly this has nothing to do with a specific player... this is a position, just a general philosophy of ours... is that's where you always do well, picking the very best player on your board and you just... from contracts that'll be coming up, injuries, all the things that are not foreseen, you know, to to pass on a player if you're sitting there picking and he's the best player on your board by a long shot, then I think that's where you can make your biggest mistakes. I don't think you say, 'Boy we've got five safeties that we love,' 'Boy, we got six pass rushers that we really like on our football team so we're just not even gonna grade the pass rushers this year because we don't need one.' That's just not how this works, and, boy, if we see a pass rusher that we think is unique that can really bring value to the table, drafting young guys who are going to be, you know, going to be around for four years, five years, you can't go wrong drafting players that you feel like can make a big difference on your football team, whether it's a pass rush or whether it's a safety, a corner, a quarterback. All those are situations where if you feel like they're great football players and the best player on your board then you have to stay with that now."

Safety is an interesting one if Branch is available.

 

[boozeman]

Safety is an interesting one if Branch is available.

I would be upset. Branch is a nice nice safety but we just signed Donovan Wilson and Kearse still has a year left.

We are not yet to the point we can start drafting for 2024....not with a first round pick. This roster is not yet that fortified.

Now some of the other guys like Skinner, Dean, Jay Ward, Chamarri Connor and Ronnie Hickman make more sense as fifths or later.

Plus I thought they liked Coyle and Bell's potential?

Thing is, I think Quinn is a bit of a safety whore. He got the Falcons to take Keanu Neal at 17.

 

[Simpleton]

I would be upset. Branch is a nice nice safety but we just signed Donovan Wilson and Kearse still has a year left.

We are not yet to the point we can start drafting for 2024....not with a first round pick. This roster is not yet that fortified.

Now some of the other guys like Skinner, Dean, Jay Ward, Chamarri Connor and Ronnie Hickman make more sense as fifths or later.

Plus I thought they liked Coyle and Bell's potential?

Thing is, I think Quinn is a bit of a safety whore. He got the Falcons to take Keanu Neal at 17.

I agree, I'm just saying it's interesting to me that he mentioned safety and a guy like Branch who could potentially be the BPA could easily drop to us.

 

[boozeman]

I agree, I'm just saying it's interesting to me that he mentioned safety and a guy like Branch who could potentially be the BPA could easily drop to us.

Somebody made that impression on him because you know damn good and well he didn't come up with it on his own.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think he mentioned safety because that was the first position where we don't need anyone that came into his head.

 

[boozeman]

I think he mentioned safety because that was the first position where we don't need anyone that came into his head.

Perhaps you are right.

I do think his brain runs on low energy and I may have been giving him too much credit.

 

[ravidubey]

"It goes back to... and certainly this has nothing to do with a specific player... this is a position, just a general philosophy of ours... is that's where you always do well, picking the very best player on your board and you just... from contracts that'll be coming up, injuries, all the things that are not foreseen, you know, to to pass on a player if you're sitting there picking and he's the best player on your board by a long shot, then I think that's where you can make your biggest mistakes. I don't think you say, 'Boy we've got five safeties that we love,' 'Boy, we got six pass rushers that we really like on our football team so we're just not even gonna grade the pass rushers this year because we don't need one.' That's just not how this works, and, boy, if we see a pass rusher that we think is unique that can really bring value to the table, drafting young guys who are going to be, you know, going to be around for four years, five years, you can't go wrong drafting players that you feel like can make a big difference on your football team, whether it's a pass rush or whether it's a safety, a corner, a quarterback. All those are situations where if you feel like they're great football players and the best player on your board then you have to stay with that now."

Fuck, Goof is right.

Thing is, is he just talking the talk?